2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

All of the rumoured returns in Royle's post seem crazy to me - he returned Casey Mittelstadt when he probably had more value a year ago.

Just to be transparent those aren't rumored returns, more so what the Barn Burner equivalent Buffalo podcast guys think is "fair". Definitely biased

[Paulie Walnuts]

If has attitude issues, and is looking for a bigger role he wont get that here.

He will get top pairing or 2nd pairing role, and potentially the 2nd PP but that is Weegars now and he will kill penalties.

I assume being a #1 and being on the top PP unit is what he is looking for.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame

Agreed. This feels like a rush the rebuild trade scenario. The Flames need to build more of their asset base before looking to make moves like this IMHO.

I agree if the plan is to tank for a top pick, I just don't think the Flames will do that. Byram has more upside than late 1sts do. He was a 4th OV pick.

So if we aren't tanking, what is the expectation to develop Parekh? Throw him out against the other team's best players and play him 25 a night as a 19-year-old?

Rasmus and Bahl got the tough matchup's, and they got around 470 mins (Bahl 436 but missed some games) against elite competition.

Weegar got 406 mins and Hanley/Miromanov add up to around 400 as well.

If you trade Rasmus, who plays with Bahl and matches up against elite players. Even if Huska gets his match up as much as possible, your 2nd unit is still facing elite competition 35-40% of the time.

Who pairs with Parekh and do you try to give him sheltered minutes in his rookie year? Going to be hard to do this with our d core.

Byram gives them options

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

A long time ago someone posted stuff about Byram's off ice character, like back when he was still new in the league. I can't recall exactly what they said, nor can I find the post now, but I remember thinking he was someone to stay away from.

No way. Super confident or cocky but otherwise Bo is a super cool guy!

[Ped]

Sounds like the Boston head coaching hire will either be Mitch Love or Marco Sturm.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I agree if the plan is to tank for a top pick, I just don't think the Flames will do that. Byram has more upside than late 1sts do. He was a 4th OV pick.

So if we aren't tanking, what is the expectation to develop Parekh? Throw him out against the other team's best players and play him 25 a night as a 19-year-old?

Rasmus and Bahl got the tough matchup's, and they got around 470 mins (Bahl 436 but missed some games) against elite competition.

Weegar got 406 mins and Hanley/Miromanov add up to around 400 as well.

If you trade Rasmus, who plays with Bahl and matches up against elite players. Even if Huska gets his match up as much as possible, your 2nd unit is still facing elite competition 35-40% of the time.

Who pairs with Parekh and do you try to give him sheltered minutes in his rookie year? Going to be hard to do this with our d core.

Byram gives them options

It will be sad if we move Zary for Byram only because that might have been the basis for a Cozens deal that we needed equally.

I do think we move him though, and probably for Byram, only because he has value and we have log jam on wing that only gets worse when we sign Marner.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I agree if the plan is to tank for a top pick, I just don't think the Flames will do that. Byram has more upside than late 1sts do. He was a 4th OV pick.

So if we aren't tanking, what is the expectation to develop Parekh? Throw him out against the other team's best players and play him 25 a night as a 19-year-old?

Rasmus and Bahl got the tough matchup's, and they got around 470 mins (Bahl 436 but missed some games) against elite competition.

Weegar got 406 mins and Hanley/Miromanov add up to around 400 as well.

If you trade Rasmus, who plays with Bahl and matches up against elite players. Even if Huska gets his match up as much as possible, your 2nd unit is still facing elite competition 35-40% of the time.

Who pairs with Parekh and do you try to give him sheltered minutes in his rookie year? Going to be hard to do this with our d core.

Byram gives them options

These minutes can be addressed in free agency just as easily. The premium to acquire an asset like Byram, again, feels too early for where the Flames are at in their rebuild.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

It will be sad if we move Zary for Byram only because that might have been the basis for a Cozens deal that we needed equally.

I do think we move him though, and probably for Byram, only because he has value and we have log jam on wing that only gets worse when we sign Marner.

FWIW I haven't heard anything to suggest Calgary has any intentions of moving Zary. He's one of 2 guys who can take the puck across the blueline with possession frequently.

I do think that Frost and Zary are pretty similar in terms of style of play, so that's the only angle I could see where Calgary may decide to move on from 1 or the other.

[Tbull8]

Ideally you bridge both and see how they do over the next 2-3 years. Then decide if we only want to keep 1

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Royle9

FWIW I haven't heard anything to suggest Calgary has any intentions of moving Zary. He's one of 2 guys who can take the puck across the blueline with possession frequently.

I do think that Frost and Zary are pretty similar in terms of style of play, so that's the only angle I could see where Calgary may decide to move on from 1 or the other.

I doubt the Flames intend to move Zary. However, they are clearly a team with at least 4 middle six centres and no true #1 centre. If the right offer comes along and the other team asks for Zary, I can see them moving Zary.

Zary is on his way to becoming a solid #2 centre with great hustle. You don't trade that for the sake of it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Ideally you bridge both and see how they do over the next 2-3 years. Then decide if we only want to keep 1

Zary needs to get the opportunity. He hs played less games, but his PPG is similar to Frost and he is 2.5 years younger. He has more jam to his game as well.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

These minutes can be addressed in free agency just as easily. The premium to acquire an asset like Byram, again, feels too early for where the Flames are at in their rebuild.

He's only going to be 24 at the start of next season. 2 months younger than Wolf, 3 months older than Zary, a year younger than Klapka, Bahl and Solovyev. So while he's got a lot of experience, his timeline is the same as a lot of the kids who people here think to be mainstays in the future.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Just read an article that mentioned Peterka had the worst defensive metrics (or xGA/60 and actual GA/60 at least) of any Forward on Buffalo this season. oof.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/638...ndidates-2025/

Article says that his metrics weren’t nearly as bad the year prior, and it might be a one-off, but yeah- that ain’t good. Might have more to do with the team he plays for, as I wouldn’t generally call him a defensive liability- although he’s not a stalwart either.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

These minutes can be addressed in free agency just as easily. The premium to acquire an asset like Byram, again, feels too early for where the Flames are at in their rebuild.

What's the upside of picking up a UFA? Even if Byram is not better than Hanifin he can get you assets later.

I'm not suggesting a Hamilton trade either. Just suggesting trading from a position of strength to address a weakness.

[Jason14h]

CalgaryPuck : You want us to tank and become the next Buffalo Sabres.

Also CP: Let’s try and trade for every Buffalo T2 player that’s is available because they will make our team better as they enter their new contracts and get paid more

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Zary needs to get the opportunity. He hs played less games, but his PPG is similar to Frost and he is 2.5 years younger. He has more jam to his game as well.

Dahlin and Makar type players blocking Zary? This reminds me of what if Mangiapane got more ice, he would be a superstar. Nope

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

CalgaryPuck : You want us to tank and become the next Buffalo Sabres.

Also CP: Let’s try and trade for every Buffalo T2 player that’s is available because they will make our team better as they enter their new contracts and get paid more

There's a pretty established pattern of Buffalo players moving on and enjoying more success elsewhere.

Calgarypuck: A variety of opinions discussing the pros and cons of those options
Jason14: Let me boil this down into a simplistic and poor reflection of the actual conversation.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

CalgaryPuck : You want us to tank and become the next Buffalo Sabres.

Also CP: Let’s try and trade for every Buffalo T2 player that’s is available because they will make our team better as they enter their new contracts and get paid more

If you can get an Eichel or Reinhart equivalent out of Buffalo's organization, then hell yah you want to trade for more Buffalo Sabres.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

If you can get an Eichel or Reinhart equivalent out of Buffalo's organization, then hell yah you want to trade for more Buffalo Sabres.

Those guys didn't help good teams win anything. Why pick them up?

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Article says that his metrics weren’t nearly as bad the year prior, and it might be a one-off, but yeah- that ain’t good. Might have more to do with the team he plays for, as I wouldn’t generally call him a defensive liability- although he’s not a stalwart either.

And in backlund we trust. How many have played on the wing, even for a bit, and became absolute two-way monsters? I can think of at least one but I'm sure there's more.