Calgary Roads Discussion Thread

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I have a little sports car and was way down south for the first time last night in a long while. I was coming back north on Deerfoot near Anderson and my car is literally bouncing up and down. I thought I blew a tire or something. Exited at the shopping centre as I thought something was really wrong. The condition of the road is brutal.

Inside or outside the construction zone?

I drove up to Dead Rear last Saturday and thought Deerfoot was worse North of Glenmore than it was south of Glenmore

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Inside or outside the construction zone?

I drove up to Dead Rear last Saturday and thought Deerfoot was worse North of Glenmore than it was south of Glenmore

Most definitely. There are parts of the center lane in near Airdrie that was obviously shelled at one point.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Most definitely. There are parts of the center lane in near Airdrie that was obviously shelled at one point.

Good, just a little further north and a lot of problems will finally be solved.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Inside or outside the construction zone?

I drove up to Dead Rear last Saturday and thought Deerfoot was worse North of Glenmore than it was south of Glenmore

I feel that they’re not bothering with any potholes as it’ll all be resurfaced eventually when the upgrades are complete. Though there were a few sections that had new asphalt north of Memorial.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

Typical City Hall where the left hand doesn't talk to the right hand.

I think I've cracked the problem. They need to stop talking with their hands and start using their mouth.

[Bigtime]

FYI starting at 9am today and going until October 31st, Memorial drive between Centre street and 9th street NW will be reduced to one lane of traffic each way on the north side lanes. South lanes completely closed for flood barrier work.

[Nancy]

So, there are some plans out now for the Bow-Sarcee redesign.

I would have thought Bow being free-flow would have made more sense, with the lights on Sarcee, but maybe slopes and space make that impossible?

https://engage.calgary.ca/SarceeBowStudy

[cam_wmh]

lol, the one corner that has an actual free flowing loop, is arguably the least needed.
Bow WB, to Sarcee SB.

[DoubleK]

I don't know what you do there. It's not like there is a least crappy option.

Unless you can eliminate left hand movements, someone is going to have to wait at a light. With the one loop they have only solved one of those movements.

[Shazam]

Sarcee is free flowing in that proposal.

It's the typical setup. Not sure what you guys were expecting.

[Mazrim]

I'm surprised they caved on keeping the temporary access to Strathcona open. I'm sure Rocky Ridge residents will be overjoyed to see that...

[Knut]

The second entrance toward Edworthy park is interesting. You can only use that to access the park and not get on Spruce Drive.

[Nancy]

I guess most of the feedback came from dog park users and people in Strathcona.

Crazy that the U-turn light is still there, now providing dog park access, and the dog park remains complete untouched. FYGM for AM and PM downtown Bow commuters in a fast growing West Side.

Not a lot of backups on Sarcee since the ring road opened, but Bow still struggles with commuter traffic.

[Shazam]

Whole thing sorta seems pointless because of the ring road.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Whole thing sorta seems pointless because of the ring road.

Originally Posted by Nancy

Not a lot of backups on Sarcee since the ring road opened, but Bow still struggles with commuter traffic.

We know from the other ring road legs opening up there will only be a few years of reprieve before previously clogged routes start to deteriorate again.

[PaperBagger'14]

Huh that’s pretty crazy they want to re do the roadwork to run right through where the ATCO lines and Enmax high voltage lines are buried. That certainly comes with a risk and I’m sure a hell of a cost.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Sarcee is free flowing in that proposal.

It's the typical setup. Not sure what you guys were expecting.

Yeah this is the only logical setup that doesn't unneessarily and massively inflate costs. Getting Sarcee mainline to be free flow is all they really have to accomplish here.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

We know from the other ring road legs opening up there will only be a few years of reprieve before previously clogged routes start to deteriorate again.

The demand certainly won't induce itself.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

I'm surprised they caved on keeping the temporary access to Strathcona open. I'm sure Rocky Ridge residents will be overjoyed to see that...

I put my comments in that they should rename it Bronconnier Permarary Laneway or some such baloney in honour of our former mayor who lives in the hood.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Comparing it to a business is a terrible example anyway. Like, if a driving route takes an hour and transit takes 45 minutes, but then the driving route is upgraded so it only takes 35 minutes, does anyone seriously believe that some of that transit ridership wouldn't shift to driving? That's induced demand.

See, I think part of the problem living wherever the hell you're living is that you actually think the typical commute takes an hour - to wherever your assumed place is, which I guess I'm thinking the DCD, which maybe perhaps you should rethink.

Oh wait, opendoor lives in Toronto or something, yeah dude, Calgary doesn't have normal commutes like that. I guess eventually all of Toronto will move to Calgary because everybody will save 300% on their commute time. Besides I thought everybody in Toronto WFH now seeing as your downtown is a shell of its former self.

Besides the fact that that argument doesn't even make sense. So people moved somewhere where the commute is 60 minutes, and then somehow the city builds infrastructure in that same area that improves commute times by 3X? lol. 2X? And * then * people move there? But isn't it all built out? And wouldn't everybody closer to the miracle DCD also benefit? What when they took out the lights on Crowchild do you think they only put one overpass by Stoney?

Next thing you'll tell me backtests work.

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

When buying a house, do you consider your commute length?

Would you build a new house on a lot that was 60 minutes from work?

What if that lot was now 20 minutes from work?

Ok, so you buy the house, and there is now one more car on that route. You aren't alone in this logic.

Demand has been induced, the road is now packed, and your commute is 50 minutes 10 years later.

Nah. In fact since the improvements on Crowchild my commute has remained basically the same. I'll let you look up when those improvements were implemented.

You vastly, vastly overestimate commute times, and you vastly, vastly overestimate how much these upgrades actually lessen commute time.

Like how would you even know these things. You don't live in a "far flung" community.