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Old 05-23-2025, 10:19 AM   #10441
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Trump wants iPhones made in the U.S. What would U.S.-made iPhones likely cost? Close to double?
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Old 05-23-2025, 10:25 AM   #10442
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I thought government trying to tell companies how they should run their business was bad and what the GOP was against.

But of course it isn't when it's them doing it.
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CBC article quotes an analyst that says they'd be around $3500 USD and that it would take up to 10 years to fully transition production over to the States.
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The base price of an Iphone 16 is about 1100 at Costco (CAD). I would guess a US-made version would be over $3k.
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So roughly double.
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Old 05-23-2025, 10:27 AM   #10446
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Trump wants iPhones made in the U.S. What would U.S.-made iPhones likely cost? Close to double?
Impossible to say because what about the imported parts? Tariffed or no tariff? Or does he want the parts also produced in the US?

Double is a safe minimum bet. Could be 10x the cost.
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So roughly double.
For higher end models maybe. For the base ones, more than triple. So like everything else this administration does, the impact is felt far more by the people who have less money.
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Impossible to say because what about the imported parts? Tariffed or no tariff? Or does he want the parts also produced in the US?

Double is a safe minimum bet. Could be 10x the cost.
I could see Americans traveling into Canada to buy a phone, or buy online if that avoids the tariff.
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Old 05-23-2025, 10:50 AM   #10449
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Narrator "There will be no consequences."
There has to be at some point. This is how revolutions start.

If you break down this bill, it strips away hundreds of billions of dollars in health care and food assistance to those who need it most. It is difficult to overstate the negative impact of this legislation, especially on women and children.

Despite promises by Trump not to touch Medicaid, that’s exactly what he did. It wasn’t just touched, it's going to be trashed. Health care for America’s poor will be slashed by nearly $700 billion. What does that mean? The Republican proposal would mean an estimated enrollment drop of 8 to 15 million people.

Even worse, $250 billion would be cut from federal food assistance, the SNAP programs, once called food stamps. Every day, 42 million Americans rely on SNAP funds to put food on the table. Parents of dependent children under 18 are currently exempt from working. The new bill drops that age to seven.

And there's more, many women would be hurt by a major defunding of Planned Parenthood. The organization is already prohibited from using federal funds for abortions, but Republicans want to ban federal money for women’s general care provided by Planned Parenthood, like pap smears, mammograms, other cancer screenings, and STD testing.

The electorate is not helpess but if this doesn't get them going and they're all 'meh' than this is the country they deserve, right? The continuation of two corporate party taking everything away from you.
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Maybe the people held in the deportation camps will make them…
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It seems the assumption would be that 100% of total unit fabrication would be moved to the USA for any particular product. Businesses are also global, and they don't want to pay more than needed for other markets, so we would probably see specific manufacturing centers be created for certain markets, similar to some vehicle manufacturing. Why would Apple move all of their production to a higher cost area to satisfy only the USA market? If I were them, I would keep Asia production for the rest of the world, leaving only the USA paying higher than required.

This also hurts the USA even more, as they can't spread the costs out over a larger number of units, so that 2x the cost is probably approaching 5x the cost. May as well just pay a 250% tariff at that rate.
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If the cost of manufacturing in the US mean units cost double, treble or more, the simplest and most economic option is to endure the 25% tariff.
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If the cost of manufacturing in the US mean units cost double, treble or more, the simplest and most economic option is to endure the 25% tariff.
Exactly. Even at 100% there's still no real point in moving. Combine this with reciprocal tariffs from other countries, and the likely result of the tariff war is just more manufacturing leaving the US.

Being a tariff island in a sea of free trade is just a really dumb idea.
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If the cost of manufacturing in the US mean units cost double, treble or more, the simplest and most economic option is to endure the 25% tariff.
And make sure you list it as the Trump Tariff so everyone can see who is at fault. Trump will go ballistic and say it is the company's fault for not moving production, they are anti-American, blah blah. But ultimately people will just buy fewer iPhones, and smuggling will go through the roof.
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Make lead poisoning great again!

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/...officials-say/

I guess that aligns with the budget cuts to feeding hungry kids, dead kids don't eat.
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Mehmet Oz on US kids: "Give them real food... just give them food that comes out of the ground looking the way it looks when you eat it. Real food you can recognize... it's also your patriotic duty bc less than a quarter of kids are eligible for the military bc they've got underlying health issues."

Need them some healthy poor kids as fodder for the miltary...
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Oprah should be arrested for introducing Dr. Oz to us
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And Dr. Phil
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And how Stephen Miller is framing the Trump tax bill

https://twitter.com/user/status/1925530428238143635
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Opera also profiled a dangerous cult leader, John of God

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo%C3%...xeira_de_Faria


She seems to to have a habit of bringing out the worst people.
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