ECR2: Florida Panthers (A3) vs Toronto Maple Leafs (A1) - PANTHERS WIN 4-3

[Rhett44]

You know Berube was probably stunned seeing what was happening. Considering how hard his Blues coach team played when they won the cup.

Matthew's just really isn't a good playoff player. He has all the physical make up to be dominant, but folds under pressure. Tavares is overrated. Nylander has his moments. Marner I think could thrive if he had some help from Matthew's.

Overall, it's pretty grim for the Leafs. They are stuck with Matthew's for the next few years. And he clearly isn't good enough. When they lose Marner they are likely a bubble playoff team.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

It's true. That's why the leafs can't win a big game in their own building.

Toxic fans, toxic media, everybody under the microscope getting raked over the coals on days in between games and having to read about it? Oof.

I hope McDingleberry goes there.

As Steve Dangle put it, how do soccer players in Europe even get out of the bed in the morning. And in soccer, you don't get to hide behind a helmet or get to sit on the bench to collect yourself if you get booed.

Canadian hockey fans can get intense, but they're extremely well-mannered compared to a LOT of other fan bases around the world.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Steve Dangle is an idiot

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Wrong.



The post Gio quoted is that Marner was one of the "worse" players out there. You would not say that if you are speaking/typing English. In that circumstance you'd say he was one of the worst players out there. Or alternatively you could say he was worse than "anyone" or worse than a specific player. You would not say he was the "worse" player out there, that is not English.

Thanks, tips. Posts aren’t essays

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

You know Berube was probably stunned seeing what was happening. Considering how hard his Blues coach team played when they won the cup.

Matthew's just really isn't a good playoff player. He has all the physical make up to be dominant, but folds under pressure. Tavares is overrated. Nylander has his moments. Marner I think could thrive if he had some help from Matthew's.

Overall, it's pretty grim for the Leafs. They are stuck with Matthew's for the next few years. And he clearly isn't good enough. When they lose Marner they are likely a bubble playoff team.

It’s Matthews not Matthew’s.

[Dion]

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Steve Dangle is an idiot

I can not agree any more than that I ready do..

[Ped]

The Leafs should have traded Marner before his NTC kicked in. Every year they fail, and everyone says there needs to be change, and then the summer goes on and they start talking about giving it another chance.


Even now, I'm willing to bet there will be more than a few willing to point at the fact they took the defending Cup champs to Game 7 without their starting goalie and argue that they're getting closer.


Rinse and repeat.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Hahaha, wtf?! Do you know how terrible a human being and politician Pierre Poilievre is? Were you following him at all? He's a terrible, loser of a human being and so bad a politician that he couldn't win an election that was literally gift wrapped for him because he was too much of a coward to oppose Trump when he was directly threatening to take over our country because the R-word hitched his entre campaign wagon to catering to unintelligent Canadians that love Trump and he was afraid he'd lose their low IQ vote.

And no I'm not surprised Manhattenboy thanked your post....at all. Not at all, that is the exact kind of dummy stuff he'd lap up and thank.

Justin Trudeau is that you?

[Shazam]

Everybody leave the politics out of here.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ped

The Leafs should have traded Marner before his NTC kicked in. Every year they fail, and everyone says there needs to be change, and then the summer goes on and they start talking about giving it another chance.


Even now, I'm willing to bet there will be more than a few willing to point at the fact they took the defending Cup champs to Game 7 without their starting goalie and argue that they're getting closer.


Rinse and repeat.

Now they're going to lose two major assets for nothing. They don't have much in the way of assets. This is a franchise in big trouble.

[GullFoss]

Tavares and Marner are both coming back imo. The leafs have no draft picks, so they need to address their holes via UFA and trades. That means bringing back Marner and Tavares.

Knies is the most likely to be moved for help on the back end.

[jayswin]

Not a chance they move Knies.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Tavares and Marner are both coming back imo. The leafs have no draft picks, so they need to address their holes via UFA and trades. That means bringing back Marner and Tavares.

Knies is the most likely to be moved for help on the back end.

Knies is exactly what the Leafs need more of, not less. Tavares will be back because he's a center and will take a pay cut. Keeping Marner for the money he wants would be a huge mistake so I'm sure Treliving is on it.

[Shazam]

I could see Tre moving Knies.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Wrong.



The post Gio quoted is that Marner was one of the "worse" players out there. You would not say that if you are speaking/typing English. In that circumstance you'd say he was one of the worst players out there. Or alternatively you could say he was worse than "anyone" or worse than a specific player. You would not say he was the "worse" player out there, that is not English.

It’s an internet peeve of mine - so many posts saying someone is “the worse”. Right up there with “he was so bias”.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame

In 13 games played. Carlo and Laughton combined for 2 pts and -7. Brad "Wizard" Treliving inherited a roster covered in elite talent and all he has managed to do is what he's always done as a GM - spend assets on "win now" pieces that do nothing.

He's also about to lose his star left winger for nothing. That should sound awfully familiar if you're a Flames fan.

I'm shocked he has a job because he's worse than Mike Millbury

Those two players weren’t brought in to provide offence. Not everyone is meant to be measured in goals and assists. Laughton was the Leafs’ best player last night.

[Ped]

Knies is probably overrated because he plays in Toronto and they score a lot - but he also tied for second on the team in playoff goals, and he's only 22. Can't see them trading him unless it's for a game-changer.

[Ped]

Those two players weren’t brought in to provide offence. Not everyone is meant to be measured in goals and assists. Laughton was the Leafs’ best player last night.

No, but part of the Leafs problem is lack of offense from their bottom 6 when the big guns get shut down. No goals from Laughton in 13 games is pretty terrible.

[Erick Estrada]

The Leafs looked overwhelmed from the opening puck drop like the moment was too big for them. At least this offseason there will finally be change as the core 4 ultimately was a failure as not even Berube could coach the stink out of them.