07-11-2007, 11:54 AM
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#681
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Sowa
There's a chance I guess that A-Rod cheated but he doesn't look like someone who used HGH or steroids. It wouldn't be that intelligent for a SS to use roids as it affects your mobility. So unless he started when he moved to 3rd for the Yankees it's highly unlikely, and if he did it certainly didn't change his numbers.
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There are many other banned substances than just HGH or Steroids but that can "positively" affect performance. For example, Neifi Perez of the Tigers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neifi_Perez
On July 6, 2007, Neifi Pérez was suspended 25 games by MLB for a second positive test for a banned stimulant.
He's a light hitting guy, so not a typical user...
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07-11-2007, 05:57 PM
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#682
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sowa
There's a chance I guess that A-Rod cheated but he doesn't look like someone who used HGH or steroids. It wouldn't be that intelligent for a SS to use roids as it affects your mobility. So unless he started when he moved to 3rd for the Yankees it's highly unlikely, and if he did it certainly didn't change his numbers.
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Steroids aren't just for pure power. Reading through Jose Canseco's book gives you a good look at what they actually do. Steroids basically turned him into someone with below average speed to above average speed.
The main advantage to steroids I'd say would be the ability to play 162 games a year at 100% every game (which would still have a huge effect on home run numbers).
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07-12-2007, 11:22 AM
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#683
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by flambers
On another note, A bluejay executive was on off the record last night (never seen the show just heard about it) and said Aaron Hill was going to be placed on the 15 Day DL due an Knee Injury.... hopefully this is not true if it is.... wow the Jays have had brutual luck. I would guess Adams would get called up to take his place.
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looks like that this will happen
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/art...12_122610_5112
the blue jays have had horrible luck with injuries this year and this is not going to help at all going into the second half. hopefully that he can get healthy quickly and get back in the line up and keep up his early production.
it doesn't look like this is gonna happen as he is playing tonight against the red sox.
Last edited by bobrick; 07-12-2007 at 06:29 PM.
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07-12-2007, 01:15 PM
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#684
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JayP
Steroids aren't just for pure power. Reading through Jose Canseco's book gives you a good look at what they actually do. Steroids basically turned him into someone with below average speed to above average speed.
The main advantage to steroids I'd say would be the ability to play 162 games a year at 100% every game (which would still have a huge effect on home run numbers).
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The real question is when did steroids begin appearing in baseball. For all we know the 70's could have had steroid use as well... We will never know.
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07-12-2007, 09:02 PM
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#685
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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another below average night for Halladay. Although Wakefield does seem to have Toronto's number.
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07-12-2007, 10:16 PM
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#686
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
another below average night for Halladay. Although Wakefield does seem to have Toronto's number.
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wakefield is a freaking bluejay killer. dang. not the best way to start off the second half vs. the division leaders. oh well, it's a four game series.
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07-13-2007, 12:41 AM
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#687
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Redundant Minister of Redundancy
Self-Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sowa
The real question is when did steroids begin appearing in baseball. For all we know the 70's could have had steroid use as well... We will never know.
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For sure it was the 70's. When did they invent steroids? I'd bet they found there way into sports two days later.
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07-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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#688
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrusaderPi
For sure it was the 70's. When did they invent steroids? I'd bet they found there way into sports two days later.
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'76 Olympics are well know to have been riddled with steroids, especially from the East German team.
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07-13-2007, 12:42 PM
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#689
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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07-14-2007, 05:16 PM
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#690
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Anybody else kind of choked about being forced to watch the Dodgers play the Giants on SNHD so that they can join the Jays game in progress? I sure am.
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07-14-2007, 05:46 PM
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#691
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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i'm choked about that blown call on glaus at 2nd...he was ridiculously safe, not even close, brutal.
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07-14-2007, 05:57 PM
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#692
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Powerplay Quarterback
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yeah. That was the same ump that missed the call on first base a couple games ago when Gibbons got tossed.
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07-14-2007, 06:00 PM
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#693
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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Originally Posted by lifer
yeah. That was the same ump that missed the call on first base a couple games ago when Gibbons got tossed.
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that call today was based purely upon routine. the throw beat him there, it was caught, thus he was out...problem is that the glove/ball never got within a foot of glaus. gotta watch the whole play, don't make a all based upon what usually happens.
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07-14-2007, 06:05 PM
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#694
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Retired
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Originally Posted by lifer
Anybody else kind of choked about being forced to watch the Dodgers play the Giants on SNHD so that they can join the Jays game in progress? I sure am.
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Why did they even do that? The game was being broadcast on FOX too, so it wasn't as if they would have pissed off anyone by not showing the rest of that game on SNET.
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07-14-2007, 06:06 PM
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#695
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by ricoFlame
that call today was based purely upon routine. the throw beat him there, it was caught, thus he was out...problem is that the glove/ball never got within a foot of glaus. gotta watch the whole play, don't make a all based upon what usually happens.
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that's what I was thinking. The ump made up his mind on that call when he saw how much the throw beat Glaus by.
It's amazing how close the fans are in right field at Fenway. Cool stuff.
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07-14-2007, 06:08 PM
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#696
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Why did they even do that? The game was being broadcast on FOX too, so it wasn't as if they would have pissed off anyone by not showing the rest of that game on SNET.
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Over the last few weeks they've been heavily promoting themselves as the place to watch Bonds make history. I guess they don't want to miss it. Pretty brutal stuff from a station that markets itself as 'your home for the Jays'.
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07-14-2007, 06:09 PM
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#697
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lifer
It's amazing how close the fans are in right field at Fenway. Cool stuff.
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right in rios' face on the ground rule double eh? definitely unique for sport in north america.
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07-14-2007, 06:16 PM
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#698
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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glaus just hit a BOMB...way long. nice.
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07-14-2007, 06:16 PM
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#699
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Holy. Glaus hit the $*&! out of that. even the fans in Boston cheered for it.
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07-14-2007, 07:11 PM
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#700
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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hill just tied the game with a clutch home run. nice.
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