[Rumour] Dailyfaceoff: Flames might go big game hunting this summer

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Is a team that got 96 points really "Re-Building"?

They need scoring. 30th OA in goals scored is not good. Bring that up to middle of the road and this team is a 100 point team easily. No, they're not rebuilding, they're fine tuning.

I want the Flames to get a top draft pick more than anybody. But the fact is, this organization will not do it.

So we are going to have to accept that they aren't going to be bottoming out any time soon. And they're going to address their needs this offseason.

I.e a top line forward to improve scoring, focusing on center depth overall, and Left side D, and a back up goalie.

It's going to be interesting how Conroy is going to do these things.

Agree with all of this. A lot if poster were claiming that because if wolf we over achieved and i am kind if pushing back on that idea. Kadri played at top line levels, huby at top six, Bahl is a good middle pair guy found money, backs and frost were bottom six add a top line center or an approximation of one to fill that gap between frost and kadri this is a playoff team.

We aren’t going to tank, we have to accept we are tweaking what we have.

Get a Center fill that center gap. I do fully expect frost and farabee to have better years , i wonder if as cool as being picked up by the gm was it added a layer of expectation to those two players they struggled to fill it. A summer to regroup will probably do them good. I expect better from sharky sometimes injury years are just that unfortunately. Healthy zary, more progression from young players, some steadiness from the vets. Trade Anderson sign or trade for a better replacement. Center to fill that top six this is a 100 point team.

=profit

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Icon

I'd be happy if our "big game hunting" was trading into the top 10 to draft a higher ranked C.

Would you trade the two later 1sts for a top 10 1st?

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Would you trade the two later 1sts for a top 10 1st?

Only a couple of player i would do that for: O’brien, frondell, mqueen, desnoyer. If they are gone probably not myself.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Agree with all of this. A lot if poster were claiming that because if wolf we over achieved and i am kind if pushing back on that idea. Kadri played at top line levels, huby at top six, Bahl is a good middle pair guy found money, backs and frost were bottom six add a top line center or an approximation of one to fill that gap between frost and kadri this is a playoff team.

We aren’t going to tank, we have to accept we are tweaking what we have.

Get a Center fill that center gap. I do fully expect frost and farabee to have better years , i wonder if as cool as being picked up by the gm was it added a layer of expectation to those two players they struggled to fill it. A summer to regroup will probably do them good. I expect better from sharky sometimes injury years are just that unfortunately. Healthy zary, more progression from young players, some steadiness from the vets. Trade Anderson sign or trade for a better replacement. Center to fill that top six this is a 100 point team.

=profit

The defence still has Pachal/Hanley/Bean as of right now and if Andersson is traded that leaves us with Bahl Weegar and a rookie. I think Hanley is a free agent.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Are they fine tuning? Honest question. The season was a fluke not a trend of a team improving. They beat expectations, but that doesn't change the makeup of the team that is old at the top.

I would argue the 14/15 team had more pieces to have success quicker after a unexpected season, and they added Dougie Hamilton and came crashing down and drafted 6th overall in the lottery the very next season. That was also with a returning Gio who was having a norris type season.

I am not arguing with you do you really think this team is a forward away? We don't even have a #1C.

You can't expect Huberdeau, Kadri, Coleman, Backlund to keep improving and keeping them afloat.

Yeah I think we could call it fine tuning. There's soft spots in the top 6 FW group they could swap around. And 1 top line player has a cascading effect down the line up as it pushes other players into more acute spots for their talents.

I.e sign Marner and Pospisil is shuffled down to the 4th line.
He doesn't need to be in the top 9 to be effective for his talents.

And even then I believe they can make trades with other forwards to bring a bit more scoring.

The forward group needs work. We have some good kids coming along and some vets who are on the wrong side of the peak in Backlund andaybe Coleman.

Sprinkle on top of that some added offense from BRZ and Parekh in the very near future it's pretty easy to see team offense improving immediately if they signed one top line player.

Which makes think about a potential Andersson trade, what's their real.goal terms of what they get back for him? More futures?

[Tbull8]

I keep wondering what it would take to get Laf out of NY. I know he had a down year, but he's still very young. Get him with Huby and see their French connection revitalize him.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I keep wondering what it would take to get Laf out of NY. I know he had a down year, but he's still very young. Get him with Huby and see their French connection revitalize him.

List of LHS wingers on the Flames or in the org.

Huberdeau
Coleman
Zary
Farabee
Sharangovich
Honzek
Basha
Battaglia
Suniev


….Am I missing anyone?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I keep wondering what it would take to get Laf out of NY. I know he had a down year, but he's still very young. Get him with Huby and see their French connection revitalize him.

Interesting enough the Bleacher Report had an article about Laf being dealt and the Flames being a potential match mentioning something around Rasmus as a starting point.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by TOfan

List of LHS wingers on the Flames or in the org.

Huberdeau
Coleman
Zary
Farabee
Sharangovich
Honzek
Basha
Battaglia
Suniev


….Am I missing anyone?

Thought shark is rw?
Stromgren is in that group and well aware he is being pushed.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Yeah I think we could call it fine tuning. There's soft spots in the top 6 FW group they could swap around. And 1 top line player has a cascading effect down the line up as it pushes other players into more acute spots for their talents.

I.e sign Marner and Pospisil is shuffled down to the 4th line.
He doesn't need to be in the top 9 to be effective for his talents.

And even then I believe they can make trades with other forwards to bring a bit more scoring.

The forward group needs work. We have some good kids coming along and some vets who are on the wrong side of the peak in Backlund andaybe Coleman.

Sprinkle on top of that some added offense from BRZ and Parekh in the very near future it's pretty easy to see team offense improving immediately if they signed one top line player.

Which makes think about a potential Andersson trade, what's their real.goal terms of what they get back for him? More futures?

I disagree, adding a single player in Marner won’t magically make the entire roster score. I still don’t see the point of adding a Marner when the best centre is Kadri.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I disagree, adding a single player in Marner won’t magically make the entire roster score. I still don’t see the point of adding a Marner when the best centre is Kadri.

Doesn't have to be Marner. Just a top line skill player. And I did say they could make other moves in the top 6 FW group as well. But in terms of actually slotting in scoring help inside the top 6, a top line RW RHS does fit the bill for the big adjustment. Ieam outside of a crazy trade for a top line center that pushes Kadri to line 2 and Frost to line 3. But that's be really hard to do I've heard. Near impossible.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by TOfan

List of LHS wingers on the Flames or in the org.

Huberdeau
Coleman
Zary
Farabee
Sharangovich
Honzek
Basha
Battaglia
Suniev


….Am I missing anyone?

Pospisil
Lomberg
---
Kerins(C/W)
Gridin
Stromgren
Misa(C/W)
---
Ciona
Bell
King

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by TOfan

List of LHS wingers on the Flames or in the org.

Huberdeau
Coleman
Zary
Farabee
Sharangovich
Honzek
Basha
Battaglia
Suniev


….Am I missing anyone?

Lomberg, Pospisil, Stromgren, Hunt, Gridin off the top of my head.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Coronato
Klapka
Frk
Tuulola

Right hand shot forwards in the Flames organization.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

lol

I really don't think you guys have to worry about the Flames landing any "big game" players in free agency.

Might just be me but I read this comment and recoil in the same way I do whenever I hear media interview players and plead for them to say something nice about Calgary.

I won't apologize for the city or the club and I won't entertain the mindframe that we're automatically excluded from signing certain players.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Yeah I think we could call it fine tuning. There's soft spots in the top 6 FW group they could swap around. And 1 top line player has a cascading effect down the line up as it pushes other players into more acute spots for their talents.

I.e sign Marner and Pospisil is shuffled down to the 4th line.
He doesn't need to be in the top 9 to be effective for his talents.

And even then I believe they can make trades with other forwards to bring a bit more scoring.

The forward group needs work. We have some good kids coming along and some vets who are on the wrong side of the peak in Backlund andaybe Coleman.

Sprinkle on top of that some added offense from BRZ and Parekh in the very near future it's pretty easy to see team offense improving immediately if they signed one top line player.

Which makes think about a potential Andersson trade, what's their real.goal terms of what they get back for him? More futures?

First bolded I agree with, which is why I think we stay status quo and let those vets age and get traded or leave via retirement or free agency. It will open up spots for the young players in the system. We are not competing with players aging out an dyou can add Kadri to the mix, but he may as well be a Pavelski who keeps producing into his late 30's.

Parekh and Bruz are exciting pieces but they are super young, and have a long time ahead. Let them develop here, they don't need the added pressure of carrying the team.

In the meantime keeping status quo lets the team finish where they finish and hopefully land a generational talent, which allows us to go out and look at free agents or trades.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Doesn't have to be Marner. Just a top line skill player. And I did say they could make other moves in the top 6 FW group as well. But in terms of actually slotting in scoring help inside the top 6, a top line RW RHS does fit the bill for the big adjustment. Ieam outside of a crazy trade for a top line center that pushes Kadri to line 2 and Frost to line 3. But that's be really hard to do I've heard. Near impossible.

I don’t think slotting is the issue in the forward core. It’s just not that good. Paying for a guy like Marner or any top line player is a move to make when the forward core is a player away from competing, ie Carolina. The Flames have to many holes to fill and once again the biggest hole is at the hardest spot to fill.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Thought shark is rw?
Stromgren is in that group and well aware he is being pushed.

He shoots left. May play RW, but the Flames have surplus of LHS forwards. Adding another is probably not a priority. If your shopping one out to bring another in, maybe?

[traptor]

3-years out of the playoffs and last in scoring. They should not be fine-tuning.


If they feel like they're fine-tuning, we're already doomed.


That means they feel like we have our core set. This team as made up right now cannot compete with the big dogs in the league. Not even close

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by traptor

3-years out of the playoffs and last in scoring. They should not be fine-tuning.


If they feel like they're fine-tuning, we're already doomed.


That means they feel like we have our core set. This team as made up right now cannot compete with the big dogs in the league. Not even close

I don’t think they will fine tune. They might try to get Marner, an elite two way forward. They would do this because the acquisition cost is free. They could easily do this and trade Anderson 6 months later. The two moves would definitely not be mutually exclusive.