Ongoing General Automotive Thread 2.0

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Meh. It’s okay. It’s not really super useful though in a lot of scenarios, and of those situations putting it into “park” does the same thing. I guess it might save you from rear-ending somebody if you yourself get rear-ended.

Putting it into park doesn't do the same thing at all, though. For one, that would mean your brake lights aren't on. Two, that's a multi-step process to put it into park and then to take it back out of park. Auto-hold works every single time you stop at a light with zero extra steps.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Putting it into park doesn't do the same thing at all, though. For one, that would mean your brake lights aren't on. Two, that's a multi-step process to put it into park and then to take it back out of park. Auto-hold works every single time you stop at a light with zero extra steps.

The only time I would use it is at a parking ticket dispenser. So park or auto-hold, basically doing the same thing there. Since it resets every time I start the car, I’d have go remember to turn it on just for that situation.

I don’t get that fidgety at lights so it doesn’t serve much purpose there, cause I can keep my foot on the brake.

I mean, sure it’s a creature comfort, but I wouldn’t pay extra for it if I had the option.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Wormius

The only time I would use it is at a parking ticket dispenser. So park or auto-hold, basically doing the same thing there. Since it resets every time I start the car, I’d have go remember to turn it on just for that situation.

I don’t get that fidgety at lights so it doesn’t serve much purpose there, cause I can keep my foot on the brake.

I mean, sure it’s a creature comfort, but I wouldn’t pay extra for it if I had the option.

Ahh, having to turn it on every time would be annoying.

In my Mercedes, after I came to a complete stop, I'd just press the brake a little hard one time and that would engage auto-hold.

In my F150 auto hold engages every time I stop for more than a second or two without having to do anything. I'd have to go into the infotainment (I think) to disable it. I don't know for sure since I've never disabled it.

[Acey]

Auto-hold is the only thing I miss from my Civic that the Audi doesn't have. Apparently the cars have it in Europe but it's odd that I have heads-up display, lane keep, adaptive cruise, a gazillion exterior cameras, radar and all this other tech and then no auto-hold which I would actually utilize.

[speede5]

haha i wasn't even thinking about it in an automatic, I was thinking how great it is in a manual in hilly terrain. Takes a lot of wear and tear on the clutch.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I didn’t even know that feature existed. That’s pretty neat and useful.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by speede5

haha i wasn't even thinking about it in an automatic, I was thinking how great it is in a manual in hilly terrain. Takes a lot of wear and tear on the clutch.

Yeah mine has the hill hold feature. Bit annoying at first, until you get used to it. But could we worse, could be driving an automatic.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Acey

Auto-hold is the only thing I miss from my Civic that the Audi doesn't have.

It's one of the only manual nanny features I like. Lane keep assist, idle shutdown, rev matching, all of that stuff annoys the crap out of me but for some reason I like the hill hold. My girlfriend recently bought a new manual civic and it is so nice in that car - better than in my Cayman which is the only car I've had that has the feature.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6...nt-admin-says/

Great news! Auto Start-Stop may be going away or hopefully rendered as an option that can be turned off permanently (like BMW used to do). I know some people don't mind it and that's fine but I can't stand it especially on a manual transmission car which I'm currently driving.

Personally, I am for this. I hate Start-Stop.

[Table 5]

I look forward to loving and/or hating all these features when my car purchases catch up to the current timeline in a decade or two.

I could see the hill-hold being a good feature for anyone learning on a manual. But then again, being a novice driver and sitting nervously at a red light on a steep hill, with a way too close Ferrari or whatever right on your rear bumper...learning how to smoothly launch out of that (without red lining it) really puts some hair on your chest. Personally, I think being able to roll back and forth is part of the fun of having a manual.

[DoubleF]

Autohold is a feature I'm not a fan of. I guess it bothers me most when most EV have it as part of the regenerative braking set up.

"Lol, DoubleF, you don't need to float the brake. Just use the accelerator only in the EV. It automatically brakes."
"I don't want to get used to this and then completely brain fart while in a different car vehicle..."

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I look forward to loving and/or hating all these features when my car purchases catch up to the current timeline in a decade or two.

I could see the hill-hold being a good feature for anyone learning on a manual. But then again, being a novice driver and sitting nervously at a red light on a steep hill, with a way too close Ferrari or whatever right on your rear bumper...learning how to smoothly launch out of that (without red lining it) really puts some hair on your chest. Personally, I think being able to roll back and forth is part of the fun of having a manual.

Imagine my terror on the narrow steep streets of Monaco, driving a manual Fiat Panda, and seing a Ferrari rock right the #### up to my bumper. Don't #### this one up, Fuzz!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Table 5

llearning how to smoothly launch out of that (without red lining it) really puts some hair on your chest. Personally, I think being able to roll back and forth is part of the fun of having a manual.

You're not wrong, but it is hard on the clutch doing that, and replacing those parts isn't as easy or cheap as it used to be.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's one of the only manual nanny features I like. Lane keep assist, idle shutdown, rev matching, all of that stuff annoys the crap out of me but for some reason I like the hill hold. My girlfriend recently bought a new manual civic and it is so nice in that car - better than in my Cayman which is the only car I've had that has the feature.

After driving a manual for 10+ years, it was nice to be able to sit at light on flat ground without having to keep the brake pinned. I almost forgot that driving an automatic you're just braking all the time.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Imagine my terror on the narrow steep streets of Monaco, driving a manual Fiat Panda, and seing a Ferrari rock right the #### up to my bumper. Don't #### this one up, Fuzz!

That's the day you turned from peach fuzz to Mr. Fuzz.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Table 5

learning how to smoothly launch out of that (without red lining it) really puts some hair on your chest. Personally, I think being able to roll back and forth is part of the fun of having a manual.

I learned to use the handbrake to hold the vehicle and release the handbrake smoothly as I'm engaging the clutch and applying throttle. Makes up for not having a third foot.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I learned to use the handbrake to hold the vehicle and release the handbrake smoothly as I'm engaging the clutch and applying throttle. Makes up for not having a third foot.

I always felt like that was the way to do things if you suck, but in a parking garage or something when you're trapped five stories below and you're working your way up in stop-and-go traffic? Yeah, I use the handbrake, too, so I don't kill the clutch.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I learned to use the handbrake to hold the vehicle and release the handbrake smoothly as I'm engaging the clutch and applying throttle. Makes up for not having a third foot.

Originally Posted by Sliver

I always felt like that was the way to do things if you suck, but in a parking garage or something when you're trapped five stories below and you're working your way up in stop-and-go traffic? Yeah, I use the handbrake, too, so I don't kill the clutch.

Just release the brake while you release the clutch and add gas

This ain't rocket computing

[Bill Bumface]

Wait - we're talking about hill hold combined with "put it in park"?

How terrible do you need to be at driving that hill hold is something you'd ever notice on an automatic?

For manuals, it makes total sense. That said, I've found they aren't created equally. The Subaru one is way too slow to let go. The Audi variant works so well you'd never know it was there if you weren't paying attention.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

How terrible do you need to be at driving that hill hold is something you'd ever notice on an automatic?

It has nothing to do with hills, or being a terrible driver. It's for the convenience of not having to keep your foot pinned on the brake at a traffic light in an automatic because, you know, automatics creep forward on flat ground?