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Old 05-13-2025, 10:21 AM   #21
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One or two 30 goal scorers changes this team big time.

Questions remaining. What do you do with Sharangovich and if you dump Anderson what are you replacing him with.

Sharangovich is a reasonable bounce back candidate after any injury year. With 4(?) years left on his contract he’s not worth much to trade so take a chance on him bouncing back. He’s not a bad player.
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Old 05-13-2025, 10:23 AM   #22
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Nothing wrong with going after Marner. He's young enough. He generates offense for himself and his line-mates and he plays a good two-way game.

I doubt it happens, not because the Flames don't take a run but because he will have a lot of suitors, and likely wants to go somewhere where he can win. I also don't rule out him returning to Toronto.
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I wonder if this is also part of selling to Wolf in that the Flames are committed to a having competitive team quicker than a full on rebuild. Let's be honest. If you were Wolf and the team tells you they think they'll be rebuilding for the next 3 to 5 years, would you be that enthusiastic about extending long term with the club? If that was the case, Wolf is probably signing a bridge contract.
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Old 05-13-2025, 10:24 AM   #24
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Subjective of course, but from listening to Conroy speak at the last season ticket holder session, I left feeling that the expectation from ownership is the Flames are not just a good team, but a bonafide Cup contender, for the arena's inaugural 2027-28 season. Barring the Flames winning the McKenna sweepstakes, getting there basically requires big-game hunting in some capacity, either this offseason or next.
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Old 05-13-2025, 10:25 AM   #25
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I don't care who they aquire, so long as it is a top 6 center. with 3-4 years of runway.
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Subjective of course, but from listening to Conroy speak at the last season ticket holder session, I left feeling that the expectation from ownership is the Flames are not just a good team, but a bonafide Cup contender, for the arena's inaugural 2027-28 season. Barring the Flames winning the McKenna sweepstakes, getting there basically requires big-game hunting in some capacity, either this offseason or next.
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'not as pressing' is very different than 'well in hand'

why use quotes and then completely change what was said?
I didn't completely change it, I just exaggerated it. If it appeases the pedant in you I can just as easily say that if they think that having Frost makes the C position not as pressing that's not great. It's equally as valid.
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Old 05-13-2025, 10:33 AM   #28
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Nothing wrong with going after Marner. He's young enough. He generates offense for himself and his line-mates and he plays a good two-way game.

I doubt it happens, not because the Flames don't take a run but because he will have a lot of suitors, and likely wants to go somewhere where he can win. I also don't rule out him returning to Toronto.
Precisely. For those hoping for Marner, I'd cheer that the Leafs get eliminated soon.

I think the idea here is that if you acquire a legitimate elite player, he will lift all boats- especially that of Huberdeau perhaps and he might return to being a 80-90 point player as well.

Having Marner + Huberdeau leading the offence with Parekh/Weegar on the back end and Wolf in net... I mean it could work. The big problem here is that the Center spot is still sorely lacking unless Frost really breaks out.

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Old 05-13-2025, 10:36 AM   #29
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Moose signed long term already. Any Elks out there?
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Old 05-13-2025, 10:37 AM   #30
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If You are looking at Marner who will probably want the Max, and your looking at a new building soon, why not be patient, and offer McJesus when he hits free agency?


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Old 05-13-2025, 10:38 AM   #31
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The organization should refrain from attempting to build a team through high draft picks, as exemplified by Stanley Cup-winning franchises such as Florida, Colorado, Tampa Bay, Washington, Pittsburgh, Chicago, or Los Angeles or most of cup winners.

A preferable approach would be to emulate teams that have secured the Stanley Cup without reliance on top-three draft selections, such as… you know…, some teams like,,, there are some right? Like those teams that didn’t draft high like St. Louis? Or Las Vegas? which were constructed through some luck for their draft picks and but mostly good trades?

For example, look the teams currently competing in the playoffs, such as a….. Teams like didn't win last 20 years…, like Carolina and also Dallas - you know, noting that while those teams possess a few players originally drafted within the top three, those players were acquired via trade which we usually haven’t had luck last many years.
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Moose signed long term already. Any Elks out there?
Who is moose?
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Going big game hunting is fine when you have a roster ready to compete, we are in first bit of constructing that roster.

Other thing is how many of these guys can you get not a realistic way to do things.

Colorado had a drafted roster, and aimed to trade picks and players to fill many holes and lost.
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Hate to be the Debbie downer but I’m against Marner on this team as it stands. He’s a great tertiary piece but to pay him to be the #1 option as the person to carry the team, is a mistake. It would mean not drafting that star we need and instead being in the fuzzy middle forever. If we had those two other options ahead of him, Marner would be perfect. He won’t get his hands dirty and that’s a big problem to have as your 1A guy.
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Rantanen/Marner
Heiskanen/Parekh
Oettinger/Wolf
Duchen/Kadri
Hintz/Huberdeau
Coronato/Johnston

Still the question is who's your Robertson....

But you can't say that with internal growth + Marner that this team can't compete.
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Old 05-13-2025, 10:46 AM   #37
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Whether or not the Flames successfully acquire that big name UFA, this is just a continued concerning direction for the Flames.

This organization will take every opportunity to shortcut this rebuild/retool, even if it limits the top end of what this team could be.

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Rantanen/Marner
Heiskanen/Parekh
Oettinger/Wolf
Duchen/Kadri
Hintz/Huberdeau
Coronato/Johnston

Still the question is who's your Robertson....

But you can't say that with internal growth + Marner that this team can't compete.
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Rantanen/Marner
Heiskanen/Parekh
Oettinger/Wolf
Duchen/Kadri
Hintz/Huberdeau
Coronato/Johnston

Still the question is who's your Robertson....

But you can't say that with internal growth + Marner that this team can't compete.
Duchene is such crap, Kadri can fill in for him and Robertson.
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What is max for Marner? 7x14?
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