2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by keenan87

The one player I want the Flames to take a chance on is Trevor Zegras. Give them a 2nd round pick + prospect and bring him in for the season.

Everyone likes to talk about the veteran presence on the Flames and how healthy it can be for young players - so try it on Zegras. See if these veterans can set him straight because he definitely has the talent and the potential to be a star.

It's been discussed before, and is unsurprisingly a polarizing topic since he is a polarizing player. I'd probably take the risk if you can buy low and demand isn't too steep.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Offersheets aren't bitcoin. They hopefully are undervalued stock in a company you've looked at carefully.

They are investing in Hurricane Hydrocarbons just after they exited insolvency and were about to become PetroKazakhstan.

…..knew I was probably getting myself in over my head with that one.

Anyway, I think the Flames need to maintain a measured approach for the next 2-3 years. Just my two cents, happy to be proven wrong. I do think though that the offer sheet route may help make improvements, I still think the priority ought to be asset accumulation through the draft/trade route. Recently Dreger, I believe, said the Flames were approached by Halloway and Broberg representatives but declined to make the offer sheet. I don’t think one good draft (that has only produced 1 NHL game) should dramatically change that view.

[FlamesAddiction]

I'd definitely take a chance on Bourque, but I wouldn't want to give up more than a 2nd rounder at most for him, preferably less though. I don't think he has out performed his 1st round, 30th OA pedigree by any means.

The risk with an offer sheet is not only do you have to overpay the player, you also then have to give them a qualifying offer pretty quickly at a similar amount. If the player doesn't live up to that, you're probably giving up an asset just to see them walk away. Unless of course the offer sheet is for a long term, which I don't think would be wise for an unproven player either.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

It's been discussed before, and is unsurprisingly a polarizing topic since he is a polarizing player. I'd probably take the risk if you can buy low and demand isn't too steep.

The problem with Zegras, or any RFA, is the player has to want to sign the offer sheet. It has been said on a few occasions by people close to the team/league that Zegras wanting to play in a Canadian market, a small one no less, is unlikely.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by keenan87

The one player I want the Flames to take a chance on is Trevor Zegras. Give them a 2nd round pick + prospect and bring him in for the season.

Everyone likes to talk about the veteran presence on the Flames and how healthy it can be for young players - so try it on Zegras. See if these veterans can set him straight because he definitely has the talent and the potential to be a star.

I would not go higher than a 2nd round pick, no prospect for Zegras. He costs 5.75 million a year. You would have to qualify him at 5.75 million a year next summer. And he has basically been a 40 point player who has limited to no defensive skills over the past two years.

[FlamesAddiction]

Is Mason McTavish eligible for an offer sheet? If so, I'd sooner do that.

Anaheim isn't in a cap crunch situation and could easily match pretty much any offer sheet.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by TOfan

The problem with Zegras, or any RFA, is the player has to want to sign the offer sheet. It has been said on a few occasions by people close to the team/league that Zegras wanting to play in a Canadian market, a small one no less, is unlikely.

Can he really afford that luxury at this point though? Hasn't really played himself into a position over the last 2 seasons to be a highly coveted player. If that truly is the case though then of course look elsewhere, but in general I think if the Flames want to take a swing on a move like that this is a good window in the rebuild/retool to do so.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

Can he really afford that luxury at this point though? Hasn't really played himself into a position over the last 2 seasons to be a highly coveted player. If that truly is the case though then of course look elsewhere, but in general I think if the Flames want to take a swing on a move like that this is a good window in the rebuild/retool to do so.

Well, if his play has been poor to the point of he will have to take what he can get, why would the Flames want him? Even if there’s a shred of truth that he’s not going to be happy playing in this market, then forget it.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

Can he really afford that luxury at this point though? Hasn't really played himself into a position over the last 2 seasons to be a highly coveted player. If that truly is the case though then of course look elsewhere, but in general I think if the Flames want to take a swing on a move like that this is a good window in the rebuild/retool to do so.

Well, if his play has been poor to the point of he will have to take what he can get, why would the Flames want him? Even if there’s a shred of truth that he’s not going to be happy playing in this market, then forget it.

You want guys who want to be here.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Well, if his play has been poor to the point of he will have to take what he can get, why would the Flames want him?

Because of the caveat that they'd buying low on him and it would a lower-risk acquisition and a bit of a project. It's not like he's regressed into a fringe NHL player.

Originally Posted by TOfan

Even if there’s a shred of truth that he’s not going to be happy playing in this market, then forget it.

You want guys who want to be here.

Do we actually know any of this to be fact or is this just speculation we've seen on this board because he's a flashy American player?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Well, if his play has been poor to the point of he will have to take what he can get, why would the Flames want him? Even if there’s a shred of truth that he’s not going to be happy playing in this market, then forget it.

Yeah he hasn’t exactly played himself into a “choose wherever you want” position. More like “okay… who wants me?”

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Knut

Why does everyone want Bourque ? I do not think he is better than Frost at this point.

It is unclear what Bourque is but he has pretty good potential and is low cost / low risk to acquire thanks to the Stars cap situation.

Also, the Stars have done a pretty great job finding diamonds in Robertson and Johnston who were both drafted in positions similar to Bourque.

Originally Posted by Toonage

Potential I suppose. He's underutilized in Dallas and could grow with players the same or similar age here. Age appropriate as the Flames like to say.

Plus he's 3 years younger than Frost and a right handed shot as well.

I'd say the positive signal on Bourque's potential is that he was #1 in the AHL in points last year which is a nice development step in his second AHL season to his rookie NHL year.

If he busts and caps out as a bottom 6 C then we can use that for a couple of seasons and let him go. If he continues to progress into a top 6 C then that's a win.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

Because of the caveat that they'd buying low on him and it would a lower-risk acquisition and a bit of a project. It's not like he's regressed into a fringe NHL player.



Do we actually know any of this to be fact or is this just speculation we've seen on this board because he's a flashy American player?

I can't remember ever heating a legit source saying Zegras would not entertain playing in Canada.

[Knut]

Not enough Tik-Tok stars in Canada for him to hang around with.

Put me in the never Zegras camp. Never gonna win with a player like that.

[ICRed]

Agreed like others, if I were Zegras I’d be happy with anyone who wants me. I just hope it’s not the Flames.
You never know though, once a player spends a few seasons somewhere their idea of that place can change. Players get older, start families yada yada.. Maybe a place like Calgary wouldn’t be top of his list now but 3 years down the road could be different. Life moves fast.

[bluejays]

Are there any rumors at this moment? The past few pages seem to be revolving around players randoms would like to see on the team, and not stemming from any discussions behind the scenes.

[Finger Cookin]

The thread is speculation heavy at the moment. At least, that's the rumor.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Are there any rumors at this moment? The past few pages seem to be revolving around players randoms would like to see on the team, and not stemming from any discussions behind the scenes.

Everything is pretty quiet. It usually is during round 2 of the playoffs.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

Because of the caveat that they'd buying low on him and it would a lower-risk acquisition and a bit of a project. It's not like he's regressed into a fringe NHL player.



Do we actually know any of this to be fact or is this just speculation we've seen on this board because he's a flashy American player?

You can take it for what it’s worth but every time the subject comes up Stienberg says (paraphrasing) there’s not much of a chance this would happen and that from either side.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Knut

Not enough Tik-Tok stars in Canada for him to hang around with.

Put me in the never Zegras camp. Never gonna win with a player like that.

Comments like this always find a way of bringing the player to Stanley Cup glory.
Sounds like Kadri, Kessel & many others.
Lots of winners on the "never win with" list.