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Old 05-08-2025, 09:39 PM   #14361
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Coronato is NOT getting traded after signing long term not happening, sends the wrong message.
He’d go in a trade for the 2nd overall or a true #1C but he doesn’t carry that value so it’s moot.
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Old 05-08-2025, 09:46 PM   #14362
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I would give an insane amount to get the 2 nd overall, I think at the end of the day it we cost us Parekh or wolf, san Jose needs quality as well, they don't need more pics.
I don't believe that the Sharks are looking for prospects or picks. They need a top pair of NHL Dmen who can be on the roster playing against the best of the NHL next winter.

They need to not allow 300+ goals against for a fourth year in a row.
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Took a look at the Sharks RD depth. Yeesh.

Lilijigren is the only bottom six guy they have. No one coming up. Dickenson is an LD, and easy Ferraro replacement in a couple years. Andersson and Bruz would be a huge 'get' for them. Fits everything that they need.

Nashville is astoundingly weak on RD. Not sure if SJ would want an offer of futures and maybe an older established forward. Value could be there, but not need.
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Old 05-08-2025, 10:15 PM   #14364
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The Sharks are gonna make some big moves this offseason, whether pick #2 goes or not is another story but they have a load of capital to go get a new D corps of their choosing.
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Old 05-08-2025, 10:31 PM   #14365
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Took a look at the Sharks RD depth. Yeesh.

Lilijigren is the only bottom six guy they have. No one coming up. Dickenson is an LD, and easy Ferraro replacement in a couple years. Andersson and Bruz would be a huge 'get' for them. Fits everything that they need.

Nashville is astoundingly weak on RD. Not sure if SJ would want an offer of futures and maybe an older established forward. Value could be there, but not need.
Both first round picks in 2025, Ras, Bruz, and Zary. Will sting to lose Zary but we draft Misa to replace his spot, who is a natural C.

Who says no??
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Both first round picks in 2025, Ras, Bruz, and Zary. Will sting to lose Zary but we draft Misa to replace his spot, who is a natural C.

Who says no??
I think both say no. I think that is too much for a guy that is not a slam dunk franchise C and I am not sure that's what SJ is looking for.
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Old 05-08-2025, 10:41 PM   #14367
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I think sj is going to be knocking on the door. Unlikely the 2nd overall is in play but they still have picks 28-33-53. As well as a third.

Going to be an interesting off season before the draft as half of the teams in the top ten hold multiple picks in the draft, but correspondingly also have as much need to start to turn things in the ice or pay for immediate needs.

Anyone know where a team like philly stands? I think retooling? they have six but also have 24-25-36-40-45-48-68. Do they keep their picks or are they looking to improve now?
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Old 05-08-2025, 11:09 PM   #14368
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Do we do Weegar for the 2nd overall pick?
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Old 05-08-2025, 11:13 PM   #14369
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Do we do Weegar for the 2nd overall pick?
Zero chance if you're trying to dump Rasmus.
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Do we do Weegar for the 2nd overall pick?
No. Weegar is our next captain and has a NMC.
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I dont think there is any way the Flames get the #2 without a package that includes Parekh. Full stop.
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Every year we hear about top picks moving and it never happens...other than like 5 and something for 3

highly doubt this year is any different
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You’re not getting 2OA without a player of equal upside going back, and likely under the age of 23. For the Flames, that is Wolf or Parekh.

If the Mikko Rantinen trade has tought us anything over the past week or so, it’s elite talent trumps all else. No amount of first round picks, particularly mid-late picks, equal what a truly elites player can provide. Teams who figured this out (Dallas, Florida, Vegas) have proven/are proving this out.

I don’t think there is any package of Rasmus Andersson + fill in the blank will get the Flames 2OA. Unless that fill in the blank is Wolf or Parekh. Then maybe there’s something for SJ to think about. If it does get you 2OA (in this case Misa) I’d question if NHL scouts consider Misa to be elite.
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Every year we hear about top picks moving and it never happens...other than like 5 and something for 3

highly doubt this year is any different
Agreed.

Honest question, when was the last time we even saw a 5 plus something for 3 trade?

Last top 10 pick I can remember being traded was the Canucks/Coyotes OEL/9OA swap, there were other pieces, but those were the primary pieces and it is yet another reason why GM’s are well advised not to trade high picks, especially for NHL veterans.
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Old 05-09-2025, 07:33 AM   #14375
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My biggest question is how the Flames plan on opening aome spots for younger players.

My other question is - which prospects need to make the team this upcoming season as their last chance before they will likely wither away. Poirier and Stromgen are the first who come to mind... maybe Kerins.
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My biggest question is how the Flames plan on opening aome spots for younger players.

My other question is - which prospects need to make the team this upcoming season as their last chance before they will likely wither away. Poirier and Stromgen are the first who come to mind... maybe Kerins.
None, really. Poirier, Stromgren, and Kerins are all 2-3 years younger than Kalpka, who finally found a role this season. They’re also that much younger than Solovyov, and still a year or two younger than Pospisil was when he made the team.

Just be patient. There’s no right timeline.
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My biggest question is how the Flames plan on opening aome spots for younger players.

My other question is - which prospects need to make the team this upcoming season as their last chance before they will likely wither away. Poirier and Stromgen are the first who come to mind... maybe Kerins.
I know for certain that Craig has Parekh written in permanent marker on the backend this year, it would take an absolute miracle to remove him from it.

I think we see Hanley perhaps take that 7th D spot again.

When it comes to Forwards I think Klapka has elevated his way onto the permanent roster, again baring anything significant happening.

Its the bubble guys I'm really not sure with, we've got a bit of a log jam right now and a number of "young" guys that could really push for spots in the bottom 6.

Assuming the top 6 looks like this:

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Coleman - Backlund - Zary
_____ - _______ - ______
Lombo - ______ - Klapka

That leaves a plethora of guys for the last 4 spots.
I cant see us having room for Rooney anymore.

Sharky
Frost
Farabee
Pospisil
Mantha? - big unknown at this point

Then guys pushing:
Kerins
Hunt
Kirkland
Morton
Honzek - made the team last year
Stromgren

This is before any UFA's or trades.
I think the Flames have a number of depth guys they could look to flip into more youthful pieces this year honestly, or picks at the draft.
Just about everyone of the guys listed as pushing, could easily slot in the bottom 6 and I'd argue that any of the depth guys from the NHL roster last year could easily slot in the top 6 as well.

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Maybe San Jose throws $$$ at Ekblad.
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I fail to see this need to 'open up spots'? Why? This is the big league, you have to earn a spot.

Using the lists from the post above, none of: Kerins, Hunt, Kirkland, Morton, Honzek or Stromgren are as good as any of: Shark, Frost, Ferabee or Pospisil. So why would the team open a spot for them?

At some point, Honzek and others will earn a spot. Then they'll be here. Simple as that.
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Old 05-09-2025, 08:12 AM   #14380
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I fail to see this need to 'open up spots'? Why? This is the big league, you have to earn a spot.

Using the lists from the post above, none of: Kerins, Hunt, Kirkland, Morton, Honzek or Stromgren are as good as any of: Shark, Frost, Ferabee or Pospisil. So why would the team open a spot for them?

At some point, Honzek and others will earn a spot. Then they'll be here. Simple as that.
Semantics. Post assumes the players have earned the spots, but there is no room.

No one is saying make room for lazy bums that haven't earned it.
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