2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Calgary4LIfe]

I look at the Flames roster this way:


"Untouchables" - players moved only for an extreme over-payment as they form the spine of the future team:
Parekh, Wolf


Difficult to move:
Kadri - NMC + Term, Huberdeau - NMC + Contract Value, Coleman - Term, Backlund - NMC, Farabee - Term/recent performance, Sharangovich - Term/recent performance.



Relatively easy to move:
Weegar - term but a value deal throughout with no worries of aging yet, Andersson (NTC, but limited)


Everyone else is easy. Coronato would still be easy to move even with the term IMO. Frost would be an interesting move - I would think a team would like to talk contract with him first, so until he is re-signed, I will just put him in the 'easy' category. Flames have a lot of players of interest around the league I would say.



I feel with the rising cap, the Huberdeau deal is looking less ugly and more movable. Probably still the most difficult contract to move on the Flames - and one of the more difficult in the NHL overall - but that needle is moving in the right direction. I had zero complaints about Huberdeau this past season, and I can't say the same from the previous two. I don't hate him on the team long-term being the 'heavy contract' as I do think he is a complete player now, and becoming a leader on and off the ice. I think in the right situation, he may be movable now, but probably not for a couple more seasons as the cap rises, Huberdeau's term decreases, and he continues to a good player in this league again.


Yes, Kadri has a NMC here and rumour has it that he doesn't want to move, but players with NMCs are moved regularly. Feaster basically forced Regehr into Buffalo - a situation that Regehr did NOT want to move to. Not saying that you would need to railroad Kadri in the same disrespectful way, but there can always be a conversation there. Players generally don't want to stay in a place they no longer feel wanted in, or if given the choice, a more preferred destination may open up. There is also the risk that Kadri suddenly ages - that's the unknown with Father Time - he always wins. It is just a matter of going through it and seeing if Kadri ages like fine wine, or if he suddenly falls off a cliff. So far, it has been a great deal - a very good deal in fact, and the loud fire alarms going off towards the end of the first year of his deal have been extinguished.



Though this team doesn't have as good of a contract structure as when Treliving first took over - and that's ignoring the mess that last year's turnover was, especially for a rookie GM to have to deal with - the long-term contract situation in Calgary is fairly flexible still.


I like how Conroy isn't afraid to sign guys to term, but isn't giving out top-dollar on it. It looks like a page from the Ottawa Senators. I will always prefer a team bet on the young players growing in the system than the older players outside of it as UFAs.


I look forward to Conroy's moves this off-season, as I have no idea what they will be.

[Ped]

Sabres retaining Kevyn Adams, but have hired Eric Staal as a special assistant to the GM.


Laughable organization.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/633...ric-staal-nhl/

[Groot]

If the Sharks are willing to move the 2nd, you know Misa will be available, and Andersson is high on the Sharks list of wants, you do whatever to get a deal done. Andersson + 18th + 22nd (go Leafs yuck) + one of our Wranglers D prospects like Poirier. I'd even add a top-10 protected 1st next year if that's what's needed.

Overpay. Who cares. You have your franchise potential 1C. This is not a 4 quarters are better than a dollar scenario, take the dollar (Misa) every **** time. We have his brother, they can feed off each other. We have his elite defenseman and teammate of 3 years, they already know each other's game.

The fact that there is even a chance to trade up for Misa is the best the hockey gods will likely ever afford Calgary so do whatever to get it done. This is our lottery win, we just have to pay for it.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Groot

If the Sharks are willing to move the 2nd, you know Misa will be available, and Andersson is high on the Sharks list of wants, you do whatever to get a deal done. Andersson + 18th + 22nd (go Leafs yuck) + one of our Wranglers D prospects like Poirier. I'd even add a top-10 protected 1st next year if that's what's needed.

Overpay. Who cares. You have your franchise potential 1C. This is not a 4 quarters are better than a dollar scenario, take the dollar (Misa) every **** time. We have his brother, they can feed off each other. We have his elite defenseman and teammate of 3 years, they already know each other's game.

The fact that there is even a chance to trade up for Misa is the best the hockey gods will likely ever afford Calgary so do whatever to get it done. This is our lottery win, we just have to pay for it.

If there was a trade to be had I think it would be brz or Mews, not Poirier. But that would have to be sharks coveting one of our prospects to even be a conversation

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If a GM offers something dumb for them then sure you move them but there isn’t any point in just moving them out for picks

I doubt Frost gets traded unless Conroy can't sign him. If his value was high, Philly would have got more.

I love Zary, but if teams are after him and we can move up in the draft and draft a center, we need to look at it.

Huberdeau and Coronato are both here for a while.

Sharangovich is signed for 5 more years and wouldn't get as much as Zary in a trade and long term could be just as good.

Farabee more than likely won't move for the same reasons as Frost.

Pospisil and Klapka won't bring a huge return and are cheap keeps as they won't cost much against the cap.

That's already 6 wingers that all are locked into a top 9 roles except Klapka and Pospisil. I think they both deserve another look next year to see if they stick in the top 9.

Until Coleman is traded, he is a top 9 forward.

Then we have the following wingers knocking on the door in the next year or 2.

Suniev
Honzek
Battaglia
Basha
Gridin
Stromgren

Add 2 more 1sts in this draft where we likely to get another winger.

We need a center and if Zary + can get us 1, we are set at wing without him.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Groot

If the Sharks are willing to move the 2nd, you know Misa will be available, and Andersson is high on the Sharks list of wants, you do whatever to get a deal done. Andersson + 18th + 22nd (go Leafs yuck) + one of our Wranglers D prospects like Poirier. I'd even add a top-10 protected 1st next year if that's what's needed.

Overpay. Who cares. You have your franchise potential 1C. This is not a 4 quarters are better than a dollar scenario, take the dollar (Misa) every **** time. We have his brother, they can feed off each other. We have his elite defenseman and teammate of 3 years, they already know each other's game.

The fact that there is even a chance to trade up for Misa is the best the hockey gods will likely ever afford Calgary so do whatever to get it done. This is our lottery win, we just have to pay for it.

I believe they said they might move it for a Hershel Walker type return.

A trade headlined by Anderson would not qualify.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I believe they said they might move it for a Hershel Walker type return.

A trade headlined by Anderson would not qualify.

He said that in the context of winning the lottery and picking first. More teams would be willing to trade a bigger package to take a guy like Schaefer than a centre like Michael Misa, who may not even go number 2.

They'd obviously still demand a big package in return for the second pick, but Andersson, plus 18, plus a top forward prospect like Gridin or Honzek and maybe a b defensive prospect would be a pretty compelling offer to a club wanting to climb out of the basement.

That's got to be the pretty close to 4 mid-first round picks (or 3 and a high 2nd) for the number 2 pick, and the Sharks very much want an established right defenseman and another young middle six forward, so it might be a strong enough offer.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I believe they said they might move it for a Hershel Walker type return.

A trade headlined by Anderson would not qualify.

Insert Zary into the equation. I still do it as we need that center.

Zary and Rasmus would help SJ a lot and the still get 2 1sts

Flames are loaded with good prospects at wing and probably only get wingers at 18 and 22 or centers that don't project to be 1st line centers.

I also would target Utah at 4.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I believe they said they might move it for a Hershel Walker type return.

A trade headlined by Anderson would not qualify.

I think the 3 1st round picks i also mentioned would be the headline, along with Andersson and an NHL-ready prospect. Or as someone else said Zary, but I imagine San Jose would prefer the defensive prospect.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I don't know that Misa is a guy I would gut my asset base for. He think he likely is a #2 centre in the NHL, not a franchise #1.

[gvitaly]

My most to least likely forwards to get dealt in 2025-26:
1. Coleman

--- Situational
2. Frost (contract negotiations)
3. Pospisil (no clear role, jumping between 1st-4th lines)

--- Trade deadline if the Flames are a bottom 10 team
4. Backlund (TD)
5. Lomberg (TD)
6. Kadri (TD)

--- Not getting good enough trade value back
7. Farabee
8. Sharangovich
9. Klapka

--- Here to stay
10. Zary
11. Coronato
12. Huberdeau

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't know that Misa is a guy I would gut my asset base for. He think he likely is a #2 centre in the NHL, not a franchise #1.

Best u-18 season from an OHL forward since Tavares and the best point performance since Kane... from a guy who has been billed a 2 way player for a couple of years.

I find the lack of Misa love extremely confusing. He doesn't play a sexy game and that might be why, but he's just great at everything.

I don't think what Groot suggests is close to enough though. To trade into the top 2 of a draft without at least a top 10 pick is probably out of the question.

I think 18 as a base is pretty much worthless in this conversation, but needs to be included. It is like 18th + Matt Coronato + Mews+ 1st 2026, or 18th + Wolf/Parekh. Rasmus is absolutely valueless in this conversation.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't know that Misa is a guy I would gut my asset base for. He think he likely is a #2 centre in the NHL, not a franchise #1.

Misa to me is a Brayden Point type center, with potentially higher scoring upside.
I think he could still end up as a #1C but I do agree a very strong #2 for certain.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Misa to me is a Brayden Point type center, with potentially higher scoring upside.
I think he could still end up as a #1C but I do agree a very strong #2 for certain.

Huh?
Point has been the #1C on one of the strongest teams in the league for the last 3 years.
If he's Point with higher scoring upside (which, I agree, good style comparison) then he's indisputably a #1C in the league.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't know that Misa is a guy I would gut my asset base for. He think he likely is a #2 centre in the NHL, not a franchise #1.

But still a huge upgrade on what we have.

What are the odds Zary is 1st line player or either of those 2 1sts are 1st or 2nd line players.

We have depth. Always good to get the best player in the deal

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think 18 as a base is pretty much worthless in this conversation, but needs to be included. It is like 18th + Matt Coronato + Mews+ 1st 2026, or 18th + Wolf/Parekh. Rasmus is absolutely valueless in this conversation.

Execpt an insider with connections to the Sharks has stated that Andersson is 2nd target for the Sharks after Ekblad, so he definitely has some value to them.

I don't think Andersson + 18th + 22nd is scoffed at. Add additional supplementary pieces to close the deal. That is if our scouts believe Misa is the real deal. I also don't think it's getting our asset base. It's an expiring asset, and turning 2 1sts into 1, plus whatever supplementary pieces and we are flush with D prospects.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Misa to me is a Brayden Point type center, with potentially higher scoring upside.
I think he could still end up as a #1C but I do agree a very strong #2 for certain.

Inserting Parekh and a Brayden Point level centre onto the team would make a world of difference.

[Caged Great]

Misa to me is basically Sean Monahan. Kinda good at everything, but not a stand out at anything.

Not a game breaker, but pretty good.

Would trade Andersson and 18, but not really much more than that.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

But still a huge upgrade on what we have.

What are the odds Zary is 1st line player or either of those 2 1sts are 1st or 2nd line players.

We have depth. Always good to get the best player in the deal

To be honest I'm losing track of the various offers.
So to clarify
Would I trade Rasmus + the two 2025 1sts for him?
Yes.

Would I trade Zary + the two 2025 1sts for him?
Yes.

Would I make either deal if it involved one of the 2026 1sts? Probably not. Maybe the Vegas pick but Hockey is so random at times that I would prefer to hang on to 2026 picks because I think the top end of that draft is significantly better.

[Monahammer]

I am one of Sean Monahan's biggest fans, but he is not really close to Michael Misa in any talent category. Maybe snap shot... but I dont even think so.