2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Tbull8]

Ugh why couldn’t the last ball be 9. We’d be sitting 6th with a non-zero shot at Misa. If we were 6, maybe Ras and 6 gets you to 2. Or some package around 6 18 +

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Ugh why couldn’t the last ball be 9. We’d be sitting 6th with a non-zero shot at Misa. If we were 6, maybe Ras and 6 gets you to 2. Or some package around 6 18 +

Ras and 6 does not get you 2. The value of 1-2 in this draft is huge, as the top 2 are above the next tier.

If Ras had a good year and was a few years younger, maybe. But signing him to a long term contract is very risky, there is a reason why posters don't see that as a viable option.

SJ would be better off trading the #2 pick for a guy like Dobson and signing him long term. Better dman and very much younger.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Ras and 6 does not get you 2. The value of 1-2 in this draft is huge, as the top 2 are above the next tier.

If Ras had a good year and was a few years younger, maybe. But signing him to a long term contract is very risky, there is a reason why posters don't see that as a viable option.

SJ would be better off trading the #2 pick for a guy like Dobson and signing him long term. Better dman and very much younger.

Who also could have been a Flame, if not for another bad trade by Treliving.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I'm a huge Pospisil fan, and would be pretty disappointed if we traded him. He is a better player than what he showed last year. Injuries, a lack of a defined role, and the coaching staff raining him in were the reasons he wasn't as effective.

His speed creates space for his linemates, I think there's more offense there, and that he will be a much more effective agitator next year.

As far as D go, Gavrikov makes so much sense if he isn't staying in LA. Orlov is another decent option. Other than that I wonder if Siegenthaler, Sanheim, or York could be had with assets obtained from an Andersson trade. Kuznetsov is going to take the 3LD spot in training camp.

While he didn't have great stats, it seemed any line Pospisil was moved to instantly got better. He seems to make the ice bigger for his linemates. I'd also like to keep him, but we are jammed up on wing right now.

If some of the kids push hard for roster spots at camp, I see no other way for Conroy. He'll have to make room and a guy like Pospisil probably gets you a higher pick than where you drafted him.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

While he didn't have great stats, it seemed any line Pospisil was moved to instantly got better. He seems to make the ice bigger for his linemates. I'd also like to keep him, but we are jammed up on wing right now.

If some of the kids push hard for roster spots at camp, I see no other way for Conroy. He'll have to make room and a guy like Pospisil probably gets you a higher pick than where you drafted him.

We should really shorten the list of forwards who can't be moved.

Huberdeau and Kadri have big contracts and no moves so they're on the list.

But then who else shouldn't be moved in the right deal?

Coronato ... maybe Zary

Not so say I don't like other players, but the untouchable + unmovable list has to be pretty small.

[dammage79]

Yeah, that list is Kadri (because he wants to be here ), Coronato, Zary and I'd put Frost on the list too. Only reason being is that Conroy targeted his RFA status to sign him and keep him around.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Yeah, that list is Kadri (because he wants to be here ), Coronato, Zary and I'd put Frost on the list too. Only reason being is that Conroy targeted his RFA status to sign him and keep him around.

Zary ? Frost ?

Seriously as untradeable/unmoveable. I would trade either tomorrow if a good offer came in .

The only 2 players that even come close are Wolf And Parekh

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Zary ? Frost ?

Seriously as untradeable/unmoveable. I would trade either tomorrow if a good offer came in .

The only 2 players that even come close are Wolf And Parekh

Why not? Zary was tracking fantastically until his 2 knee injuries. On pace or better than Coronato. So it's easy to reason why the Flames wouldn't be interested in moving him.

And I already stated the reason why CGY wouldn't be interested in moving Frost. It's perfectly reasonable to think that

[Calgary Highlander]

If management thinks Zary is a winger, give him a bridge. if you think he's a centre, sign him up long term.

We have a lot of excellent wingers in the system. If Zary elevates his play and stays healthy, he's a great trade chip if wingers like Suniev, Battaglia, Stromgren, Honzek, Gridin, Basha, etc. emerge as good options to replace him in the next 2-3 seasons.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Ras and 6 does not get you 2. The value of 1-2 in this draft is huge, as the top 2 are above the next tier.

If Ras had a good year and was a few years younger, maybe. But signing him to a long term contract is very risky, there is a reason why posters don't see that as a viable option.

SJ would be better off trading the #2 pick for a guy like Dobson and signing him long term. Better dman and very much younger.

Not sure Dobson is a better dman but he is 4 years younger. Dobson’s approach to his own end makes Evan Bouchard look like Larry Robinson defensively.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Does Kadri have a big contract with a 95M cap? Age is a factor but the AAV is fine for what he brought last year.

[SuperMatt18]

If Kadri was a UFA right now would he get a 4 x $7M deal?

I think he would, which IMO means his actual contract value is fine and he's not overpaid.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Why not? Zary was tracking fantastically until his 2 knee injuries. On pace or better than Coronato. So it's easy to reason why the Flames wouldn't be interested in moving him.

And I already stated the reason why CGY wouldn't be interested in moving Frost. It's perfectly reasonable to think that

Frost and Zary (Maybe) are complementary players on a Stanley Cup Caliber team.

No way these two should even be in the unmovable conversation.

If SJ came and offered the #2 overall for Frost and Zary you are saying no?

Flames always fall in love with good but not elite players. The goal needs to be always adding elite talent.

If you ever get the chance to package multiple assets for an elite talent you go for it, unless their names are Wolf or Parekh

If the Flames are thinking Zary and Frost are untouchable we are in big trouble

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Ras and 6 does not get you 2. The value of 1-2 in this draft is huge, as the top 2 are above the next tier.

If Ras had a good year and was a few years younger, maybe. But signing him to a long term contract is very risky, there is a reason why posters don't see that as a viable option.

SJ would be better off trading the #2 pick for a guy like Dobson and signing him long term. Better dman and very much younger.

You're right on Dobson--and maybe trading him is the direction the new GM might go if they embrace a rebuild.

But I don't think you're right on the value of the top 2 being well above the rest of the draft. Almost all have Schaefer as the clear number 1 and Misa as number 2, but Martone has slotted in at number 3 on a number of lists, and I think there's a good chance the Sharks will take him as he could potentially be a perfect compliment to Celebrini, and they've got a couple other higher end potential centres in their pool (Will Smith and Bystedt).

A long-term top line of Musty-Celebrini-Martone would be pretty tempting, even if it means passing on Misa, who's playoff disappearance has to be leading to some questions for scouts.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

While he didn't have great stats, it seemed any line Pospisil was moved to instantly got better. He seems to make the ice bigger for his linemates. I'd also like to keep him, but we are jammed up on wing right now.

If some of the kids push hard for roster spots at camp, I see no other way for Conroy. He'll have to make room and a guy like Pospisil probably gets you a higher pick than where you drafted him.

Why trade Pospisil though? He is the type of player this team needs and his value is higher than his stats. His contract should be the same as he just doesn't put up numbers that will get him paid.

IMO with Coronato signing a team friendly deal that could play into a steal of a deal, Coronato, Parekh and Wolf need to stay. Anyone else can be moved if we can upgrade at center.

If we can't get a center now, we need to move vet wingers for more picks, so we have cap and assets to blow when the right center becomes available or we draft one with our picks.

[Knut]

The UFA signing of Kadri is 100% completely fair and likely will be for the extent of the contract. The issue is more of timing of the contract. When Tkachuk and Gaudreau left they really should have used that as the time to retool/rebuild instead of pushing the chips in with a different group.

Overall, it is what it is and Kadri can be a part of the solution.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Frost and Zary (Maybe) are complementary players on a Stanley Cup Caliber team.

No way these two should even be in the unmovable conversation.

If SJ came and offered the #2 overall for Frost and Zary you are saying no?

Flames always fall in love with good but not elite players. The goal needs to be always adding elite talent.

If you ever get the chance to package multiple assets for an elite talent you go for it, unless their names are Wolf or Parekh

If the Flames are thinking Zary and Frost are untouchable we are in big trouble

I agree. I would re-sign both and move Coleman and Rasmus 1st, but if there is an offer out there for a center that has #1 center potential or is already proven #1 then guys like this can be included to get it done.

[OILFAN #81]

Just to follow up from my post yesterday with new info today. Misa is about 60-40 to be picked over Martone in the 2 slot. Their board is currently: Schaefer, Misa, Martone, Hagens.

Also, Ekblad, Andersson, Provorov is the top 3 in order of interest apparently. Pionk was 1 but that is out the door now.

And Dan Vladar is currently of high interest for the Sharks. That order from what I was told is: 1. Vladar, 2. Samsonov, 3. Lyon. They want to add a goalie to play with Askarov.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If Kadri was a UFA right now would he get a 4 x $7M deal?

I think he would, which IMO means his actual contract value is fine and he's not overpaid.

I think he'd get more to be honest.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Frost and Zary (Maybe) are complementary players on a Stanley Cup Caliber team.

No way these two should even be in the unmovable conversation.

If SJ came and offered the #2 overall for Frost and Zary you are saying no?

Flames always fall in love with good but not elite players. The goal needs to be always adding elite talent.

If you ever get the chance to package multiple assets for an elite talent you go for it, unless their names are Wolf or Parekh

If the Flames are thinking Zary and Frost are untouchable we are in big trouble

If a GM offers something dumb for them then sure you move them but there isn’t any point in just moving them out for picks