Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[BigThief]

Why does calgarygeologist always break the quote feature

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

What is the game plan for the separatist traitors vis a vis the natives and their treaties? Even if Alberta meets the standards of the clarity act, and even if the provinces agree to let Alberta go (not happening), the native bands will have the right to say, no thanks, we don't agree to have our treaties transferred over to an independent Alberta.

I have spoken to a few of these people that want to separate and on topics such as dealing with Indigenous bands they basically say they will just throw some money or shares in O&G at them then they will be on board. They also are convinced that once it happens all four western provinces will be on board, maybe even the territories.
Also the federal government will just sign over all the land it owns in the provinces such as Banff because people like Smith will insist on it.

Also the people I spoke with seem to be split as to them being their own country or the US running to them to make them new states. "Either way will be a positive"

They are so delusional that they think this will happen and everything will be so much better because nothing bad can come of this.

[GordonBlue]

I can't believe people would be as stupid to think that the USA would allow Alberta to be a state, no matter how conservative Alberta may be.
We'd be a northern Puerto Rico, the US would gut us for resources and leave us in abject poverty.

If UCP voters think we're broken now, they'd be in for a rude awakening.

[KelVarnsen]

Lets be real.

The Federal Government could do everything Alberta wanted, and Alberta would still whine, bitch and moan.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

I have spoken to a few of these people that want to separate and on topics such as dealing with Indigenous bands they basically say they will just throw some money or shares in O&G at them then they will be on board. They also are convinced that once it happens all four western provinces will be on board, maybe even the territories.
Also the federal government will just sign over all the land it owns in the provinces such as Banff because people like Smith will insist on it.

Also the people I spoke with seem to be split as to them being their own country or the US running to them to make them new states. "Either way will be a positive"

They are so delusional that they think this will happen and everything will be so much better because nothing bad can come of this.

They sound exactly like Brexiters pre-leave who predicted everything would be sunny and rosy with lollipops and unicorns after the UK left the EU. How did that work out again?

[Paulie Walnuts]

What money will they throw at them? We won't have a currency, and if we do it will likely be in the toilet. Not to mention certain stocks once they give up Canadian citizenship they will have to relinquish.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Why does calgarygeologist always break the quote feature

Hey moron, if you look at Fuzz's post the quoting was already ####ed and all I did was quote his post. So, shut the #### up.

[Drak]

Guys?

[PepsiFree]

You can always tell when they miss their afternoon nap.

[Point Blank]

So update on bargaining, teachers have voted 38% yes vs 62% no to mediator recommendations. There will be a cooling off period and then a strike vote will occur.

While the raise recommended isn’t great, my primary issue are class sizes and complexity. Mediator recommended that teachers for a committee to make recommendations to the superintendent, who has little power over funding. It then gets escalated to the minister of education, but then no follow up on what happens if Demetrios says “haha idc”

If a strike occurs, I think the government is going to try to make public school teachers look greedy. I know no one here thinks that, but as a teacher on the ground, I want to make it clear that lots of teachers’ primary issue is class size and complexity. It is very difficult to provide the best education that we can when we spend 90% of our energy on 10% of the class.

I’m not going to provide the numbers again on raises as I’ve already posted that, but happy to if you’re curious.

[All In Good Time]

At least Quebec politicians are impressed

Bloc Albertwah

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Hey moron, if you look at Fuzz's post the quoting was already ####ed and all I did was quote his post. So, shut the #### up.

Blaming the guy that came before for all the problems. Conservative strategy in practice.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

[QUOTE=Lubicon;9416842]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

not really. The US west coast refineries are not connected by pipeline to US domestic crude supplies if I am not mistaken. They get their feedstock via tanker (Alaska etc) or via TMX. It's a bit of an isolated market in the US compared to where most of our export pipelines go.

Refineries in Washington state are connected to TMX through the Puget Sound system. There is generally been more demand than that system can handle.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The low cost and proximity of Canadian barrels have so far however trumped the quality concerns. The vessel Aqualeader discharged about 290,000 barrels of crude last month at Marathon Petroleum's (MPC.N), opens new tab Anacortes, Washington, becoming the first TMX cargo to arrive on the West Coast, refinery ship tracking data showed.


Ferndale, Washington, refineries also took shipments in recent days./QUOTE]

OK, I'm confused. I thought the entire point of this thing was to get our oil to world markets where we'd be getting higher prices. But it seems a bunch of it is just hoping the border by boat to Washington? Have we just been sold a boatload of bull#### on this one?

The goal is to access world prices. Once you are tidewater you get whatever the value of your oil in the marginal destination minus shipping to get there. It doesn’t actually matter what oil goes where what matters is that it could go there and is priced based on it being able to go there.

[puffnstuff]

Ontario Premier Doug Ford appeared to take shots at Alberta Premier Danielle Smith this week as her province considers separating from the rest of Canada.

“This is a time to unite the country, not people saying, ‘Oh, I’m leaving the country,’” Ford said in an off-script remark on Tuesday at an event promoting skilled trades in Etobicoke.

Ford did not mention Smith directly by name, instead he took the opportunity to call for greater cooperation. “United we stand, divided we fall, and we have to be a united Canada, together to fight President Trump’s tariffs,” he added.

When asked about his comment, Smith said she has a great friendship with Ford but she doesn’t “tell him how he should run his province.”
“I would hope that he doesn’t tell me how I should run mine,” she added.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/05/...aratist-talks/

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

When asked about his comment, Smith said she has a great friendship with Ford but she doesn’t “tell him how he should run his province.”
“I would hope that he doesn’t tell me how I should run mine,” she added.

Everything she says, she implies that Alberta is her own personal kingdom that she can run as she chooses. Albertans need to let her know that she actually works for us - and is doing a lousy job of it.

[Point Blank]

The contrast between Carney and Smith:
Carney “Having met with the owners of Canada, it won’t ever be for sale”
Smith “Don’t tell me how to run MY province”

#### off Smith.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

So update on bargaining, teachers have voted 38% yes vs 62% no to mediator recommendations. There will be a cooling off period and then a strike vote will occur.......

Additional classroom supports (education assistants, etc.), smaller class sizes, more resources to assist with demographic complexity. All long overdue, and the real determining factor in the quality of outcome for Alberta's kids in the classroom.

I'd also suggest that a reduction in redundant paperwork and reporting requirements would be well received by teachers. I've observed several instances of creating the same or similar reports, only to need to upload them or provide them to several different portals or levels of the bureaucracy.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Amethyst

Everything she says, she implies that Alberta is her own personal kingdom that she can run as she chooses. Albertans need to let her know that she actually works for us - and is doing a lousy job of it.

Well so far Albertans have said that yes, she is allowed to run her own personal kingdom with zero consequences. They really don't seem to give a #### what she does as long as she makes the liberals mad

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Amethyst

Everything she says, she implies that Alberta is her own personal kingdom that she can run as she chooses. Albertans need to let her know that she actually works for us - and is doing a lousy job of it.

Some Albertans have tried to tell her and her party that. Unfortunately the message could not be computed on their end.