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Old 05-05-2025, 11:59 AM   #1741
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The animosity people on this forum have for hockey media is baffling.
With the exceptions of Ron Maclean and Eric Francis.

And Mark Spector


And David Staples


And, (glances at long list of oilers shills)...

But yeah, you're right.
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Old 05-05-2025, 12:02 PM   #1742
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He is the only one that acts this way like I said he lacks professionalism and he is a MAGA.
MAGA? Where did you get that?
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Old 05-05-2025, 12:02 PM   #1743
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Best of luck to Frank in whatever's next.

I like Frank, and I think he gets an unfair amount of unwarrented hate
He's fine for a guy that makes things up 80% of the time.

No one, not even the fly in the GM's office is as well connected as he pretends to be.
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Old 05-05-2025, 12:11 PM   #1744
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He's fine for a guy that makes things up 80% of the time.

No one, not even the fly in the GM's office is as well connected as he pretends to be.
I think people evaluate insiders by how "right" they are, meaning how often do the things they same come true.
Which is silly. Because just because something doesn't happen doesn't mean that those things weren't being discussed.

Saying he "makes up things 80% of the time" is a pretty extreme (and uninformed) accusation.

There are crappy hockey columnist to be sure (such as Staples) but the constant complaining about most of them is a bit much.
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No, Daily Faceoff predates Frank by about a decade, and it'll continue to thrive once he's gone.

... And that's just about all I have to say about that.
You mean Frank didn’t build the brand like he says?
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You mean Frank didn’t build the brand like he says?
I mean, he undeniably brought new viewers to the site and gave it a certain degree of credibility it may not have had before.
But there's a reason why Frank is divisive and it certainly isn't unique to the users on this site.
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There was some Frank snark on the show today near the end, just in passing.
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He's a bulldog when backed into a corner. But in his line of business, he probably has to be in order to survive.

Seeing him get hot under the collar for his poor takes belittling the alberta rivalry on Barn Burner is admittedly still satisfying. In that instance, he was clearly on the losing end.
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Old 05-05-2025, 07:16 PM   #1749
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Frank just really didn't seem like a great fit as a regular guest on BB, definitely prefer the other guys like Noodles and Dreger who just come off as more willing to talk Flames with the boys, whereas Frank would just play devils advocate on every opinion they had on the team.

I hope this means we get to hear more of Jeff Marek on the show.
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Old 05-05-2025, 07:28 PM   #1750
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Frank Seravalli is just a tone deaf clown. His defence of Wayne Gretzky lately, his bizarre tweet about Gaudreau in his season predictions, his nonsense leaking of the expansion draft lotteries. The guy has zero integrity . Most NHL insiders knew or had some knowledge about players that Seattle was taking but Seravelli was in a such a rush to prove himself as having information what he leaked the info.

Now he's tweeting about building the Daily Faceoff?
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Utterly tone deaf. It reads like he started the website and did it himself.
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There are crappy hockey columnist to be sure (such as Staples) but the constant complaining about most of them is a bit much.
Like the aforementioned David Staples, if they're good they're good, and if they're bad they're bad. People on this site whine about the media, coaches, players, etc etc. That's hardly something we as Flames fans hold a monopoly on. David Staples is trash.. so are a lot of other guys.
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I mean, he undeniably brought new viewers to the site and gave it a certain degree of credibility it may not have had before.
But there's a reason why Frank is divisive and it certainly isn't unique to the users on this site.
Listen carefully when Steinberg has Frank on his show and you can tell the lack of “warmth”, for lack of a better word. And Steinberg likes everybody.

What you’re saying doesn’t surprise me based only on what I hear.
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I mean, he undeniably brought new viewers to the site and gave it a certain degree of credibility it may not have had before.
But there's a reason why Frank is divisive and it certainly isn't unique to the users on this site.
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Barn Burner Mondays have been wayyyy better since that idiot stopped hopping on for the Insider Hotline. What a dork
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Barn Burner Mondays have been wayyyy better since that idiot stopped hopping on for the Insider Hotline. What a dork
I stopped watching Barn Burner because whenever I did there was Frank and I just didn't like his attitude. I had no idea that he wasn't on the show anymore. I think I'll start checking it out again!
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Weird. I didn't love Frank, but he was the best (only?) insider they had on the show.

Dregs is good, but is he really an insider like Frank or Elliotte? Noodles is not an insider, but a fantastic regular guest for sure.
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I stopped watching Barn Burner because whenever I did there was Frank and I just didn't like his attitude. I had no idea that he wasn't on the show anymore. I think I'll start checking it out again!
You stopped watching the entire show, which has episodes daily, because of a guest they had on one day a week for like 30 mins?

What about the other roughly 9.5 hrs of content?
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I really do think BB should take a generative AI time out.
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I quite like Frank, I get some of the hate, but he is always a good listen, especially with Steinberg. Boomer and Pinder less so.
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You stopped watching the entire show, which has episodes daily, because of a guest they had on one day a week for like 30 mins?

What about the other roughly 9.5 hrs of content?
You didn't read what I said. Anytime I watched Frank was there. I got tired of seeing Frank so I just didn't bother trying to watch. I don't have the time to watch it daily, I guess it just happened that when I decided to check it out it was Frank and I just didn't like listening to him. Sorry for not liking Frank and not having all the time to consume every last second of all the contents.

Going forward I'm not going to watch every last second of their podcast either but I'm more likely to check out a few episodes.
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