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Old 04-28-2025, 02:56 PM   #241
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Putting on my beer league goaltending equipment on, here's my going theory:
Hellebuyck is objectively one of the most technically proficient goalies in the league. To do this, he maximizes his size, play reading and nearly perfect positioning, but also requires a level of predictability in play to do it.

A lot of this predictability goes out the window in the playoffs with opposing players more likely to screen, crash the net, create scrambles, desperately shoot from weird angles, do nearly anything for an opportunity, etc... a lot of scenarios you can't necessarily plan for in practice.

Notably, guys like Luongo, Markstrom really struggle with this. They can't seem to find the puck when the play looks so different than the regular season.

Other goalies like Binnington and Kiprusoff (and Wolf?) seem to weirdly thrive off unpredictability. Maybe it's because they've never had that size to consistently rely on and were able to develop their puck tracking ability beyond that of Hellebuyck.
I think it is as simple as this: he plays deeper in his crease in the playoffs. He is always deep - as deep as any goalie in the league. But come playoffs, he retreats more. And IMO you need to do the opposite in the playoffs - with less time and space, goalies should be challenging the shooters MORE, not backing up.
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I think it is as simple as this: he plays deeper in his crease in the playoffs. He is always deep - as deep as any goalie in the league. But come playoffs, he retreats more. And IMO you need to do the opposite in the playoffs - with less time and space, goalies should be challenging the shooters MORE, not backing up.
I believe it was Kevin Woodley who was on Fan960 talking about Hellebuyck about how Hellebuyck is one of the best goalies in the NHL at anticipating the plays and reading plays.

But if there is an area where he's just "average" it's screened shots, deflections, and tips and IIRC in the regular season the Jets were one of the best teams in the league at eliminating those types of chances but the Blues are feasting on that come playoff time.

Just like both Vegas and Colorado did.

I think the increased traffic and chaos, combined with him playing deeper, and with teams being able to game plan specifically to create those types of chances, leads to what happens with him in the playoffs.
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:50 PM   #244
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this is so ####ing outrageous I can't watch the skate out and anthem

edit: horse ####ers on sportsnet list the game on SN east and pacific and its on west. God, I wish a plague on that organization
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:53 PM   #245
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Is it Hellebyck or Hellesuck tonight?
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Is it Hellebyck or Hellesuck tonight?
Jets or Jerts?

Helleybuyck or Pavelbuyck?

Stayed tuned
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:55 PM   #247
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Find out on the next exciting episode of Jetgon Ball Z...
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:56 PM   #248
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oooh

thats Jets there baby
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:57 PM   #249
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WOW, that's quick!
I forgot to ask:


Will it be Binnington or Bummington tonight
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:58 PM   #250
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Hey I think I’ve seen that play before. Jets player recovered awful quick once they scored.

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Old 04-30-2025, 07:59 PM   #251
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lol. it would kill this guy to make a stop.
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:59 PM   #252
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Well, the response is also quick!


Looks like Bummington vs Hellesuck.
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Old 04-30-2025, 08:00 PM   #253
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If Winnipeg’s gonna do the white out the Jets really should wear white at home. A retro white.
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This game is dumb.

All sorts of dirty plays and dives happening. Not a lot of honorable play
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Old 04-30-2025, 08:10 PM   #255
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Lol bleeding and called for a dive
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This game is dumb.

All sorts of dirty plays and dives happening. Not a lot of honorable play
its surprised me too how dirty he blues have been. that hit on scheifeile is an intent to injure imo
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Old 04-30-2025, 08:16 PM   #257
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Lol bleeding and called for a dive
It was definitely embellished. I wish the refs called that on the wonder twins every time they go down from a push
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its surprised me too how dirty he blues have been. that hit on scheifeile is an intent to injure imo
Totally agree. I think everyone's lucky that he didn't get him in the head.

That's when I kinda decided this game was dumb. What if he'd got him in the head, and then Scheifele was out, and Schenn was ejected? That's no fun.
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Old 04-30-2025, 08:23 PM   #259
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Schenn is a washed up pr*ck. Just plays dirty now because he can’t keep up .
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Was sundqist the diver? Just saw the box score penalty. He’s been embellishing all series. Refs onto his schtick.
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