Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Shouts of Stolen Election in 3----2------

I already saw it last night.
I've seen "Why is this poll worker taking this box of votes home", and some "Can someone explain to me how....(followed by a few different things that only people who don't understand how numbers work would say)"

[puffnstuff]

Guess who crawled out from under her rock?

10 a.m. EDT: Alta. premier: ‘I will not permit the status quo’

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has released a fiery letter congratulating Carney on his win and warning him that she “will not permit the status quo to continue.”

“I invite the Prime Minister to immediately commence working with our government to reset the relationship between Ottawa and Alberta with meaningful action rather than hollow rhetoric,” she wrote.

“I will not permit the status quo to continue. Albertans are proud Canadians that want this nation to be strong, prosperous, and united, but we will no longer tolerate having our industries threatened and our resources landlocked by Ottawa.”

She says her caucus will hold a special meeting this Friday to discuss her government’s relationship with Ottawa. She also commended Carney’s political rival, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, for his “powerful and principled advocacy.”

[Drak]

Conservatives should have won this election but they blew it. Hate filled angry slogans emulating Trump won’t win you an election with the serious threat we face down south. So if there’s whining from cons, you best aim it at your own party. The Cons need to get rid of the extremist MAGA element and come back to sanity.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Guess who crawled out from under her rock?

10 a.m. EDT: Alta. premier: ‘I will not permit the status quo’

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has released a fiery letter congratulating Carney on his win and warning him that she “will not permit the status quo to continue.”

“I invite the Prime Minister to immediately commence working with our government to reset the relationship between Ottawa and Alberta with meaningful action rather than hollow rhetoric,” she wrote.

“I will not permit the status quo to continue. Albertans are proud Canadians that want this nation to be strong, prosperous, and united, but we will no longer tolerate having our industries threatened and our resources landlocked by Ottawa.”

She says her caucus will hold a special meeting this Friday to discuss her government’s relationship with Ottawa. She also commended Carney’s political rival, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, for his “powerful and principled advocacy.”

Did she congratulate PeePee for losing his seat?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Guess who crawled out from under her rock?

10 a.m. EDT: Alta. premier: ‘I will not permit the status quo’

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has released a fiery letter congratulating Carney on his win and warning him that she “will not permit the status quo to continue.”

“I invite the Prime Minister to immediately commence working with our government to reset the relationship between Ottawa and Alberta with meaningful action rather than hollow rhetoric,” she wrote.

“I will not permit the status quo to continue. Albertans are proud Canadians that want this nation to be strong, prosperous, and united, but we will no longer tolerate having our industries threatened and our resources landlocked by Ottawa.”

She says her caucus will hold a special meeting this Friday to discuss her government’s relationship with Ottawa. She also commended Carney’s political rival, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, for his “powerful and principled advocacy.”

She is a fcuking embarrassment

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Looch City

All Conservatives have to do is shut out the far right and they'll have a majority government for like the next 5 decades.

That's all they have to do.

Now are they actually brave enough to do it?

The issue is the second they do that is another far right party will emerge that will cause them to lose western seats , and they still won’t win the election

Carneys platform is relatively what a lot of the socially progressive fiscally / economy focused conservatives are looking for . The issue a lot have is whether the Liberals will actually move this direction post election under Carney or revert to what they have show they historically have been when governing

4 years will tell us the answer

[MacDaddy77]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

I already saw it last night.
I've seen "Why is this poll worker taking this box of votes home", and some "Can someone explain to me how....(followed by a few different things that only people who don't understand how numbers work would say)"

My wife voted at the elections Canada office in Sundance, She told them her riding and was given options for candidates in another riding. I'm sure it was an honest mistake and luckily she knew her candidates so caught it before casting her vote.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Drak

Conservatives should have won this election but they blew it. Hate filled angry slogans emulating Trump won’t win you an election with the serious threat we face down south. So if there’s whining from cons, you best aim it at your own party. The Cons need to get rid of the extremist MAGA element and come back to sanity.

And that needs to start with their leader. But everyone knows it won't. In his concession speech he doesn't even think he lost. Just doubled down on his fear- mongering slogans. He lost his own seat

To me, that says Canadians were willing to vote conservative but not for that condescending, smug, one-trick pony to lead it.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

I already saw it last night.
I've seen "Why is this poll worker taking this box of votes home", and some "Can someone explain to me how....(followed by a few different things that only people who don't understand how numbers work would say)"

I hate this “we are already seeing this “

No we’re not - if you spend all day on Twitter , Reddit , Bluesky , and whatever other platforms occupy your entire days you are always going to find stupid posts regarding anything .

I’m sure 50 idiots of Reddit are yammering about this out of a country of 40 million .

There is no “stole the vote” message being expressed by conservatives across Canada . They lost and everyone knows why (and frankly from a seats perspective it wasn’t overly close to a win)

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The issue is the second they do that is another far right party will emerge that will cause them to lose western seats , and they still won’t win the election

Carneys platform is relatively what a lot of the socially progressive fiscally / economy focused conservatives are looking for . The issue a lot have is whether the Liberals will actually move this direction post election under Carney or revert to what they have show they historically have been when governing

4 years will tell us the answer

The question they need to ask themselves is, would they lose more votes to the PPC or another like-minded party than they would potentially gain from getting votes from the Libs.


There are a lot -a lot - of people who vote Liberal not because they particularly want to, but because they feel it's the best way to keep the far-right out of government. They don't see the current iteration of the CPC has something they can ever vote for, no matter how bad the Liberals get.

[belsarius]

Its a good morning to wake up to. Carney wins, Jagmeet and PP gone. I wonder if Heather McPherson can take over leadership of the NDP and create the "Edmonton Coalition" with Carney going forward if the results stay the same.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Guess who crawled out from under her rock?

10 a.m. EDT: Alta. premier: ‘I will not permit the status quo’

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has released a fiery letter congratulating Carney on his win and warning him that she “will not permit the status quo to continue.”

“I invite the Prime Minister to immediately commence working with our government to reset the relationship between Ottawa and Alberta with meaningful action rather than hollow rhetoric,” she wrote.

“I will not permit the status quo to continue. Albertans are proud Canadians that want this nation to be strong, prosperous, and united, but we will no longer tolerate having our industries threatened and our resources landlocked by Ottawa.”

She says her caucus will hold a special meeting this Friday to discuss her government’s relationship with Ottawa. She also commended Carney’s political rival, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, for his “powerful and principled advocacy.”

What a piece of ####, our voting base is just so stupid. Hopefully Nenshi being a former mayor here can make some inroads enough to send this twat packing to the US.

Making Jason Kenney look normal was a tall task but she was up to it.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I hate this “we are already seeing this “

No we’re not - if you spend all day on Twitter , Reddit , Bluesky , and whatever other platforms occupy your entire days you are always going to find stupid posts regarding anything .

I’m sure 50 idiots of Reddit are yammering about this out of a country of 40 million .

There is no “stole the vote” message being expressed by conservatives across Canada . They lost and everyone knows why (and frankly from a seats perspective it wasn’t overly close to a win)

I saw it within about 10 seconds of looking for election updates last night, and I’m on twitter/reddit/bluesky etc for less than a minute or two per day.

Trying to frame this as some issue only experienced by the terminally online and trying to shut out where conversations are being had is just stupid.

If conservatives aren’t in denial about one thing, it’s another. Focus not on the fact your party lost, but why it lost, and deal with the gross infection you were all so happy to court a few months ago.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I think that was one of the good thing that came out from PP. He did not dismiss the results and championed democracy.

Yeah, have to give some (minor) props to PP for even saying no to the people booing his concession. Even our tarnished politicians still respect the democratic process enough not to engage in that ####.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

OK one more because my farts smell great this morning.

Have to give you full props here, you really called it on the Liberal side.

But in fairness, that's totally ignoring your tireless defending of Jagmeet and the NDP strategy when they dropped a ton of votes, lost party status, and Jagmeet lost his seat? I didn't see those predictions when you were carrying their water.

Just trying to make sure your head isn't too big after smelling all of your own farts.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I hate this “we are already seeing this “

No we’re not - if you spend all day on Twitter , Reddit , Bluesky , and whatever other platforms occupy your entire days you are always going to find stupid posts regarding anything .

I’m sure 50 idiots of Reddit are yammering about this out of a country of 40 million .

There is no “stole the vote” message being expressed by conservatives across Canada . They lost and everyone knows why (and frankly from a seats perspective it wasn’t overly close to a win)

You don't need to spend a bunch of time on any social media app, Danielle Smith can speak for all those idiots.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The issue is the second they do that is another far right party will emerge that will cause them to lose western seats , and they still won’t win the election

Carneys platform is relatively what a lot of the socially progressive fiscally / economy focused conservatives are looking for . The issue a lot have is whether the Liberals will actually move this direction post election under Carney or revert to what they have show they historically have been when governing

4 years will tell us the answer

Prairie ridings are getting 60-80% CPC votes.

Siphon off 10% of that to MAGA nuts and it barely scratches the surface.

the PPC part exists and is a non-factor to the CPC compared to the the the left wing.

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The issue is the second they do that is another far right party will emerge that will cause them to lose western seats , and they still won’t win the election

Carneys platform is relatively what a lot of the socially progressive fiscally / economy focused conservatives are looking for . The issue a lot have is whether the Liberals will actually move this direction post election under Carney or revert to what they have show they historically have been when governing

4 years will tell us the answer

I would argue that Carney's messaging thus far is closer to what the Liberals have been historically with Chretien et al. We just had one terribly incompetent leader who shifted that view, so I'm optimistic that Carney is what a lot of people have been looking for.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

Have to give you full props here, you really called it on the Liberal side.

But in fairness, that's totally ignoring your tireless defending of Jagmeet and the NDP strategy when they dropped a ton of votes, lost party status, and Jagmeet lost his seat? I didn't see those predictions when you were carrying their water.

Just trying to make sure your head isn't too big after smelling all of your own farts.

Appreciate you ensuring I don’t float away, but that’s not exactly how it’s been. Case in point:

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Well, NDP voters do care (like most people should) that leaders follow through on election promises, but no, nobody cares whether Singh keeps his word about an election or not, and I imagine most NDP supporters would prefer he didn’t based on where the polls currently stand. Conservatives care if Singh keeps his word… a lot… but the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc all maintain avenues to work together so it’s less urgent.

The NDP don’t have the cash for an election, and sacrificed a lot in the polls to achieve some good for Canadians. But yeah, seeing if there’s some magic to conjure up in 10 months is a far better play than just giving up and handing it over to the Cons.

I mean they didn’t have 10 months, but are they still in a better position today than they would have been if they forced an election early and handed it to the Cons? Maybe. But I was right that they had sacrificed a lot in the polls, so I don’t know how much better I could have called it.

I’ve also acknowledged that Singh was not long for his position.

So what can I say, I just have great farts and “get” politics a little better than most. Don’t worry about patting me on the back, I’ve got it covered.

[GirlySports]

So is Singh a hero? (pharmacare, dental care etcc, and most importantly, blocking PP's path to being Prime Minister?)

Or is he a failure? (losing his own seat, losing official party status)

Pepsifee brought it up. Canadian politics can be weird. Is it better to have 7 seats in a Liberal minority government or 100 seats in a Conservative majority government (like 2011)