American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Nothing about having a concrete opinion on the origin of the virus is really a rational position given the evidence so far. There are reasons to believe that it could be natural origin or that it could be a lab leak, but neither has enough evidence behind it to really draw a firm conclusion.

The big difference is that the missing evidence from the natural origin hypothesis is pretty normal in these kinds of situations. It took 15 years for them to determine where SARS came from and they still haven't really figured out the source of Ebola.

Whereas with the lab leak theory, there are just some things that aren't easily explained based on current info. For instance, I've still never seen a satisfactory explanation of how there would be two separate lineages of the virus present at the wet market if it was a lab leak. That would require two separate leaks (a person can't be infected with different lineages) that both ended up in the same market. Whereas with natural origin, it would be pretty easily explained by it circulating in animals for a period of time and mutating into different lineages before spreading to humans in Wuhan.



No offense, but you might want to view your information sources a bit more critically. The Huanan market is about a 30 minute drive from the Wuhan Institute of Virology; they're not close to one another at all.

Viruses and pandemics have emerged from natural origins for as long as they have existed. The lab leak theory seems far fetched IMO when you look at how these things normally start. I am not saying it is impossible by any means, it just wouldn't be the most obvious or likely origin. I think in the last 100 years or so, humans especially in the wealthier industrialized world have gotten so use to avoiding these things, that when it happened on the scale of COVID, they started looking for alternative theories.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I'm saying almost everything he says is simply verbal diarrhea. And if you look at previous versions of this thread since Trump in politics started, you'll find the same pattern:

- Trump says something barely coherent
- Someone posts it
- We laugh and talk about how did this reetard become President?
- We might mock Americans
- Wash, rinse, repeat.

And I say this as someone who used to post every "God he's dumb as ####" quote. At this point is there any value to bringing it up? The cycle is the same. Now, direct policy items are different and should be discussed. But his dementia ramblings? I'd kind of like to never talk about, read about, or think about, ever again.

If you can predict / decipher what is a dementia rambling vs what is actual policy please teach me how you do it and I’ll make more money than God with that knowledge.

His whole shtick has always been to sow fortune from seeds of chaos, just look at him selling new hats that say “Trump 2028”. Now is that a dementia rant or a threat to change policies? Who knows.

If you’re tired of reading / talking about a chaotic environment, well there’s (at minimum) 3 years and 9 months left. You’re in for a rough go lol.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1915522567655317748

Ok Vince. Isn’t he married to a girl from Calgary. Makes sense.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Nothing about having a concrete opinion on the origin of the virus is really a rational position given the evidence so far. There are reasons to believe that it could be natural origin or that it could be a lab leak, but neither has enough evidence behind it to really draw a firm conclusion.

The big difference is that the missing evidence from the natural origin hypothesis is pretty normal in these kinds of situations. It took 15 years for them to determine where SARS came from and they still haven't really figured out the source of Ebola.

Whereas with the lab leak theory, there are just some things that aren't easily explained based on current info. For instance, I've still never seen a satisfactory explanation of how there would be two separate lineages of the virus present at the wet market if it was a lab leak. That would require two separate leaks (a person can't be infected with different lineages) that both ended up in the same market. Whereas with natural origin, it would be pretty easily explained by it circulating in animals for a period of time and mutating into different lineages before spreading to humans in Wuhan.



No offense, but you might want to view your information sources a bit more critically. The Huanan market is about a 30 minute drive from the Wuhan Institute of Virology; they're not close to one another at all.

Totally agree I think the current state of we don’t know and both a lab leak and natural are plausible is the only reasonable state to be in. I can see where by post wasn’t clear.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Ok Vince. Isn’t he married to a girl from Calgary. Makes sense.

Worse she's from Blackie. That's right we have a town near High River, that still to this day is called Blackie, sure it was originally in reference to an Irish guy with black eyes. But still funny nobody has come for them yet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

From Blackie Alberta. How fitting.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by #-3

Worse she's from Blackie. That's right we have a town near High River, that still to this day is called Blackie, sure it was originally in reference to an Irish guy with black eyes. But still funny nobody has come for them yet.

Scottish poet John Blackie.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by #-3

Worse she's from Blackie. That's right we have a town near High River, that still to this day is called Blackie, sure it was originally in reference to an Irish guy with black eyes. But still funny nobody has come for them yet.

Close, it was named after a Scottish scholar.

"The community was named after John Stuart Blackie, a Scottish scholar"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackie,_Alberta

[TorqueDog]

You know at some point that some bored idiot is going to make the name of that town their cause without knowing that it's someone's name.

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[DownInFlames]

George Santos gets seven years in prison for fraud.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r838v4xddo

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

George Santos gets seven years in prison for fraud.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r838v4xddo

If those are federal charges, Trump will pardon him next week.

[Leondros]

This is pretty wild:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/u...est-judge.html

F.B.I. Director Kash Patel said on Friday that agents had arrested a county judge in Milwaukee on charges of obstructing immigration enforcement. A spokesman for the U.S. Marshals confirmed the arrest of a sitting judge, a major escalation in the Trump administration’s battle with local authorities over deportations.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Send him to El Salvador.

[CroFlames]

Part of me is desensitized to it, but a part of me is still shocked at the absolute blatant and daily ignoring of the rule of law in that country.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Part of me is desensitized to it, but a part of me is still shocked at the absolute blatant and daily ignoring of the rule of law in that country.

We are living through what will be a significant chapter in history.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Part of me is desensitized to it, but a part of me is still shocked at the absolute blatant and daily ignoring of the rule of law in that country.

I was hoping they could at least make it to the mid-terms and that they could somehow find a way to right the ship, but things are unravelling so quickly down there, it's pretty much hopeless at this point. America as we once knew it is over, and U.S. democracy is dead.

[Reggie Dunlop]

They're arresting judges now.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

We are living through what will be a significant chapter in history.

Yeah kind of looks like it will become a significant and dark chapter in US history. There's probably going to be movies and TV series made about this in future decades where future generations will be left in awe of the incompetence, stupidity, and how this was all allowed to happen. It may not be the worst thing though as it appears we are in an era where people really need to be reminded about why we have democracy.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Leondros

This is pretty wild:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/u...est-judge.html

What in the........................?