2025 Toronto Blue Jays Season Thread

[Jason14h]

The Jays aren’t spending the money they are expecting to be a mediocre team - realistically or not

[browna]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Based on their record I'd say they've exceeded expectations, results-wise. But when you look at the underlying stats, I dare say they've got lucky more than concrete results from good play. But a mediocre team was to be expected coming in. I said it at the start but there are still a lot of question marks for batting. It was foreseeable. That isn't the coach's fault IMO. Certainly he's been the coach for 3 seasons or whatever it is but the payroll and roster construction are the GMs doing. He should've been canned two years ago. I just can't stand that he's been given such a lengthy rope for mediocrity.

They were 13-14 in April 2024. Like this year, it's because they got good pitching and if they scored 3 or more runs a game they usually won them early last year.

Same goes this year...for record, the way they are winning and not winning. I think this is a better team on paper then last year, take out Turner, Kiermerer IKF and Voglebach and add in Santander, Giminez Straw and Roden. A bunch of meh except for Santander.

I think once again, if they had a league average run scoring offense right now instead of near bottom, they easily, easily have 4 or 5 more wins and are leading the division by a few games.

[SuperMatt18]

I think the issue remains the guys whos should be producing but aren't.

Vlad - 1 HR - Average 34 HRs avg the last 4 years
Santander - 2 HR - 31 HRs avg
Bichette - 0 HR: 24 HRs avg.

Those 3 need to combine for at least 90 HRs for this team to have success, they are on pace for a combined 19 HRs right now. If they were on pace to combine for 90 HRs they would have 13 HRs right now. 10 more homers would go a long way for this team right now.

Thats where the power struggles are.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think the issue remains the guys whos should be producing but aren't.

Vlad - 1 HR - Average 34 HRs avg the last 4 years
Santander - 2 HR - 31 HRs avg
Bichette - 0 HR: 24 HRs avg.

Those 3 need to combine for at least 90 HRs for this team to have success, they are on pace for a combined 19 HRs right now. If they were on pace to combine for 90 HRs they would have 13 HRs right now. 10 more homers would go a long way for this team right now.

Thats where the power struggles are.

It goes way deeper then that though

The Jays have played 25 games and as a team have 13 hrs. Lets assume the three guys above had the 10 HRs we needed. That would put us at 23 hrs in 25 games.

That would put us at 20th in the league, and on pace for 150 hrs

Last year only 3 teams hit under 150 HR's. White Sox, Nats, and TB

The problem with allocating the extra 10 HR's right now is it is colder weather and HR's start coming more easily later in the season, so in reality we would expect those guys to prob have 6-7 more.

Six leaves them still in the bottom 5.

There is also the fact that I don't think you can even hope for Bo to hit 20 anymore. Hes gone 50 games without a HR.

The entire roster is void of power. Even if Vlad and Santandar pick it up, and Bo hits 15 (unlikely) over the rest of the season we would still be bottom 5.

But man can we hit opposite field weak singles !

[Karl]

Will this team win 80 games??? Forget about the playoffs.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Karl

Will this team win 80 games??? Forget about the playoffs.

The AL has some bad teams , and few (any?) superstar teams

I think their starting pitching is good enough to keep them in a lot of games, and at some point their bats will heat up more then they have shown

I would think 80 wins is the ballpark for them right now

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The AL has some bad teams , and few (any?) superstar teams

I think their starting pitching is good enough to keep them in a lot of games, and at some point their bats will heat up more then they have shown

I would think 80 wins is the ballpark for them right now

Well Vladdy, Bo & hopefully Santander.

Don't think the rest of the team is good enough. Too many of the other guys are mostly AAAA & AAA calibre guys.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Karl

Well Vladdy, Bo & hopefully Santander.

Don't think the rest of the team is good enough. Too many of the other guys are mostly AAAA & AAA calibre guys.

Don’t forget Varsho is coming back . He is 20 hrs .

Kirk doing anything would also help

[Machiavelli]

Gah, they're so boring!

[KelVarnsen]

I’m starting to think that the Jays aren’t a good team

[nixon45]

Must be nice as a starting pitcher to know that if you give up a single run then it's lights out.

[nixon45]

What happens when a ball goes over the fence? I'm unfamiliar with the concept.

[KelVarnsen]

OMG. A Jays HR

[GirlySports]

A home run!!

[KelVarnsen]

That’s the first Jays lead since last Saturday

[KelVarnsen]

I’ll give Kirk a lot of credit. He’s a really good catcher with a great arm.

[flamingred89]

Sigh

[KelVarnsen]

This team stinks

[Inferno]

I'm not watching but I'm not shocked at all to see Schneider in a 1-1 game put Fluharty in.

[KelVarnsen]

Kirk!