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Old 04-24-2025, 07:31 AM   #161
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MLB used to do it, but changed it with the new playoff format wild card round. If think if NHL is going to have play-in games like NBA, it would have to be every season between teams 7-10 because broadcasters would want to have rights to those games.
Play in the NBA is awful and should be removed. The eastern conference is a joke.

In hockey would be even worse with the randomness of overtime. You would be adding Detroit and Columbus to the mix. Brutal

Imagine a game going to OT and you lose off a bad bounce.
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Play in the NBA is awful and should be removed. The eastern conference is a joke.

In hockey would be even worse with the randomness of overtime. You would be adding Detroit and Columbus to the mix. Brutal

Imagine a game going to OT and you lose off a bad bounce.
I agree. It's why I'm perfectly fine with the playoff format and tiebreak rules as it is. This is one of those anomalies where the Flames got the points typically they would need to make the playoffs, but other teams in their conference also got it, and had more favourable results.

If this was to become a more frequent occurrence, then reevaluation could be considered.
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MLB used to do it, but changed it with the new playoff format wild card round. If think if NHL is going to have play-in games like NBA, it would have to be every season between teams 7-10 because broadcasters would want to have rights to those games.
Did not know MLB had changed this.
OK, scratch that I guess.
I'm not in favor of 7-10 play in, I don't think.
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Agreed
But there should definitely be a play in game, in conference, in the event of a tie. Use tiebreaker for seeding, but not for who is in and who is out. Blues and Flames should have played. MLB does it, NHL should too.
Plus if they did this, they'd get their wet dream of more games.
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Old 04-24-2025, 09:46 AM   #165
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Well that’s the rules. When I tell you the divisional format sucks you tell me that’s the rules.

It’s like that in every sport. The NBA eastern conference usually sends 2-3 under .500 teams to the playoffs when in the west they would be at the bottom.

NFL has the NFC especially the south division lately.
You can be really difficult to communicate with at times.

I did not state I agreed, I merely pointed out the discussion is about the fact it sucks two teams Calgary had 5 more points than made the playoffs, not that Dallas lost 6 in a row and otherwise would have won the President's Trophy...

I agree, it is what it is. It also sucks.
I am not against the divisional and wildcard format, and can still think it sucks for us this year.
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you know the day they change the playoff system the Flames will be on the wrong end of that too
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The only way to guarantee every playoff team has a better record than every non-playoff team is a 1 vs 16 playoff model. And there’s zero chance that will ever happen because the owners (cost) and players (travel and fatigue) would both hate it. So all this whining about records and conferences is pointless.
Yeah. Every year there's a team in one conference that misses the playoffs with a record that would make the playoffs in the other conference. It's the way it is with all sports that use the conference format based on geography which is the right way to do it given the North American geography which is large and sprawled out. The Flames having a better record than the Habs is pretty irrelevant at the end of the day seeing they are not an eastern conference team. The only change that needs to be done to the playoff format is to go back to 1 vs 8.
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I like the playoff format.
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you know the day they change the playoff system the Flames will be on the wrong end of that too
They'll be comfortably in the 8th seed for a month and get some surging 9th seed in a play-in
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They'll be comfortably in the 8th seed for a month and get some surging 9th seed in a play-in
Probably a 36-win team with 16 OTL, and we lose to them in shootout in the play in.
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I can get onboard with an extra elimination game to break ties for the last playoff spot.

Tiebreakers are OK for seeding but the playoff teams should be decided on the ice. Especially as the league grows and they keep playoffs at 16 teams.
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I like the playoff format.
You're only saying that because the Oilers are losing!
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Probably a 36-win team with 16 OTL, and we lose to them in shootout in the play in.
I'd hope a play in type of game would have full overtime. I'd be down for a play in type series if it was a best of 3 or ideally 5. The Winnipeg play in series in the bubble was kind of fun with the 5 game format.
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I'd hope a play in type of game would have full overtime.
It's the NHL, I'd bet any play in type game would be full shootout.
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I'd hope a play in type of game would have full overtime. I'd be down for a play in type series if it was a best of 3 or ideally 5. The Winnipeg play in series in the bubble was kind of fun with the 5 game format.
The 8th seed would end up playing 6-10 games before starting their series. Don't think it would work.

It's the NHL they would use the shootout. It's the only league from the NFL and NBA that has different OT rules in the regular season and playoff.
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In my opinion it would be only a play in game if the 8th and 9th place team are tied. No tiebreakers for 8th and 9th. If they tie then have a game... It would be very rare and exciting. Traditional tiebreaker could be Home Ice or even a coin toss.
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Did not know MLB had changed this.
OK, scratch that I guess.
I'm not in favor of 7-10 play in, I don't think.
I was thinking the same but the flames would be in the play-in every year though if there was one, lol
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I was thinking the same but the flames would be in the play-in every year though if there was one, lol
If we used the NBA format it would have been:

Montreal vs Ottawa winner is 7th
Columbus vs Detroit winner plays loser of Montreal vs Ottawa to get 8th.

Minnesota vs St. Lous winner is 7th
Calgary vs Vancouver winner plays loser of Minnesota vs St. Louis to get 8th.

You are adding a 90, 89, and 86 point team that could potentially make the playoffs.

You play 82 games in the regular season to potentially get beat by a 86 point team with a fluke bounce.

Edit it should be New Jersey not Ottawa if not for this wild card format.

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If the top 16 in the league make it what is the point of conferences?
You'd play most teams 3 times and a few twice a year, say goodbye to rivalries.
You guys complain about the schedule now, just add a couple more east coast road trips every year.
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