04-22-2025, 02:04 PM
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#761
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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That graph shows why it was a good thing Nurse was only suspended for 1 game.
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04-22-2025, 02:13 PM
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#762
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
They're playing about 40% of the time. Of course it wouldn't be viable if they were doing something that is physically impossible for a human being.
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They played over 5 mins in the last 8 minutes of the game.
They should just play 10 minutes of the first 13 minutes of the game, get out to a 2 goal lead and pray they can hold onto it haha.
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04-22-2025, 02:21 PM
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#763
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#1 Goaltender
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FFS, Kings could have done better defending by putting 5 guys right in front of their net along with Kuemper...leaving almost nothing to shoot at. Would take a miracle of sorts to score.
That was ugly.
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04-22-2025, 02:23 PM
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#764
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Shazam
They played over 5 mins in the last 8 minutes of the game.
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So? They didn't play 80% of the game.
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04-22-2025, 02:26 PM
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#765
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
That graph shows why it was a good thing Nurse was only suspended for 1 game.
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Kings definitely asked the league to keep it to 1 game.
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04-22-2025, 02:41 PM
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#766
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Teams always play them too passive in the defensive zone, but McDavid with his edge work and speed can always create passing lanes.
You have to play him aggressive and take the risk that he's going to beat you 1:1 and hope you have help.
Playing him passively just means he has time to create the space and angle he needs to get the pass through.
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04-22-2025, 02:59 PM
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#767
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
So? They didn't play 80% of the game.
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Yet.
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04-22-2025, 03:07 PM
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#768
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Shazam
Yet.
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Show me one instance, since ice time has been tracked, where a skater played 80% of any game.
(Spoiler: There isn't one. The record, according to QuantHockey, is held by Cam Fowler, who logged 38:54 in a game against Arizona on April 8, 2023. Steve Staios holds the record for a forward at 31:18.)
There's no ‘yet’ about it.
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04-22-2025, 03:09 PM
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#769
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Teams always play them too passive in the defensive zone, but McDavid with his edge work and speed can always create passing lanes.
You have to play him aggressive and take the risk that he's going to beat you 1:1 and hope you have help.
Playing him passively just means he has time to create the space and angle he needs to get the pass through.
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They probably shouldn't change much from their structure it worked in the regular season and worked most of last game.
Stay heavy on the forecheck, and try to keep the puck in the other end.
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04-22-2025, 03:12 PM
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#770
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Teams always play them too passive in the defensive zone, but McDavid with his edge work and speed can always create passing lanes.
You have to play him aggressive and take the risk that he's going to beat you 1:1 and hope you have help.
Playing him passively just means he has time to create the space and angle he needs to get the pass through.
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They did very well against them until they loaded up. Most teams are playing to protect 4 to 0 late in the 2nd.
Edmonton is a bad team. Not much to like other than 2 guys.
The problem LA has is a personnel issues. They have a lot of good players. Byfield is slowly developing into a very good player but over the years they have not replace Kopitar and Doughty. They are still good but they are old. LA will need to saves, pp goals bounces and a breakout playoff from Byfield. I expect by series end the big 2 will continue their 3 points a night against LA.
Vegas has the tools to slow them up and limit them to less than 2 a night and expose the rest of the garbage Edmonton has
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04-22-2025, 03:20 PM
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#771
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
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One thing that I noticed last night was that as the game got closer to the end and the Kings increased their lead, Mavi increased the cherry picking. Skates always pointing at the kings net. This isn’t news to anyone.
Kings need to manage puck possession in the oilers zone when Mavi is on the ice. It sounds ridiculous I know, but that was literally the oilers breakout strategy. They are willing to take their chances that they can get the puck out of the zone and Mavi is 1 on 1 with the defender. When the kings maintain possession, it’s 5 v 4 and it’s tiring on the oilers.
Also, the Kings need to be aware of Mavi doing the magical crossovers in his own zone and the oilers dumping the puck back to him on greaser PPs. He’s hitting the kings blue line at speed and basically daring them to take a penalty.
Finally, and I don’t know why the referees can’t see it when it’s clear as day, is the oilers grabbing the opponents stick either to get leverage or to fall over to draw a penalty. It’s an epidemic, and the nhl needs to come out and say that either they are going to ignore it, or they are going to call it. Think about it; if you and I are battling for a puck, but I’m holding your stick, you literally have no play.
And for Pete’s sake, score on the empty net!
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04-22-2025, 03:29 PM
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#772
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
Show me one instance, since ice time has been tracked, where a skater played 80% of any game.
(Spoiler: There isn't one. The record, according to QuantHockey, is held by Cam Fowler, who logged 38:54 in a game against Arizona on April 8, 2023. Steve Staios holds the record for a forward at 31:18.)
There's no ‘yet’ about it.
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Lighten up, Francis.
Besides this is the Oilers we're talking about. I can absolutely see them doing something banner-worthy like this.
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04-22-2025, 03:53 PM
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#773
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by McG
One thing that I noticed last night was that as the game got closer to the end and the Kings increased their lead, Mavi increased the cherry picking. Skates always pointing at the kings net. This isn’t news to anyone.
Kings need to manage puck possession in the oilers zone when Mavi is on the ice. It sounds ridiculous I know, but that was literally the oilers breakout strategy. They are willing to take their chances that they can get the puck out of the zone and Mavi is 1 on 1 with the defender. When the kings maintain possession, it’s 5 v 4 and it’s tiring on the oilers.
Also, the Kings need to be aware of Mavi doing the magical crossovers in his own zone and the oilers dumping the puck back to him on greaser PPs. He’s hitting the kings blue line at speed and basically daring them to take a penalty.
Finally, and I don’t know why the referees can’t see it when it’s clear as day, is the oilers grabbing the opponents stick either to get leverage or to fall over to draw a penalty. It’s an epidemic, and the nhl needs to come out and say that either they are going to ignore it, or they are going to call it. Think about it; if you and I are battling for a puck, but I’m holding your stick, you literally have no play.
And for Pete’s sake, score on the empty net!
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They won't call this as long as its a superstar. Similar to the difference in rules that the top players play by in the NBA. I can't stand it but thats the reality of entertainment. People are wanting to see Mcdavid put up points, not get defended by other players
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04-22-2025, 04:03 PM
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#774
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Just pound McDavid and Dryheave....why doesn't anyone just Fning hit these guys and hard .
They arent superheroes FFS . Yeah youll take some calls but make em pay . Scrums need butt ends , elbows, face washes, slewfoots , spears , throat chops , goalie snow sprays and F the commentating.
If the officials dont see it it didnt happen.
Certain teams in this league do it all the time and get away with it and most have atill hoisted cups.
When your opponent is afraid of you and wonders whats next youve already won .
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04-22-2025, 04:08 PM
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#775
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EVERLAST
Just pound McDavid and Dryheave....why doesn't anyone just Fning hit these guys and hard .
They arent superheroes FFS . Yeah youll take some calls but make em pay . Scrums need butt ends , elbows, face washes, slewfoots , spears , throat chops , goalie snow sprays and F the commentating.
If the officials dont see it it didnt happen.
Certain teams in this league do it all the time and get away with it and most have atill hoisted cups.
When your opponent is afraid of you and wonders whats next youve already won .
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Surest way to lose to the Oilers is give them powerplays.
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04-22-2025, 04:20 PM
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#776
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Franchise Player
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I think the biggest takeaway for the Kings from last night was finally stopping the Oilers PP. We can focus on the fact that the Oilers won the previous three series but in reality the Kings outplayed the Oilers every series at 5on5 but the Oilers PP was at a ridiculous 47 percent through those 18 games. Hard to stop anyone gifting the other team 2 goals a night.
Last night was crazy. Is every game going to be 6-5? Nope. The biggest detriment to the Kings may have been their lead was too big. Allowing the Oilers to go maximum chaos. Which they thrive at. If that game was 2-0 going into the 3rd the Kings probably shut it down like they have to teams all year. Just move on and play your game and the King's depth should take over.
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04-22-2025, 04:25 PM
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#777
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
5 to 3 goal was Gavrikov, he got beat but not to the same level Mikey got beat on the 5 to 5 goal. Edmundson left his man and tried to lay on the ice to block the pass but was late
5 to 4 goal, Doughty tried to lay on the ice to block the pass. Went down early and Mikey was in the corner. Danault didn't pick up Hyman
5 on 5 goal Mikey did nothing. 5 to 2 goal he lost Leon. Nobes else in front of net, good play for Leon to drift but he was Mcdavid's only option.
Mikey is a decent dman, just don't think he can manage 26 mins a night and a loaded-up line. I trust Gavrikov more to be the guy out against both.
Oilers are loading up top line until LA can prove they can slow them down.
Last year, they were pacing for 50-point playoffs after the 1st 2 rounds against LA and Vancouver. Once they played teams that have elite d pairings, they slowed right down, and it was the PK that almost got them the cup.
Mikey Andersson isn't good enough to be matching up against them.
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I think you missed what I said.
There was a time in the third, and I think it was 5-3 at that time, where Doughty supported Anderson, stopping a McOzoneonly rush, and thus I wondered if that was the support Anderson expected on the 5-5 goal when he seemingly let McIhateEdmonton get by him on the outside.
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04-22-2025, 04:41 PM
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#778
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
(Spoiler: There isn't one. The record, according to QuantHockey, is held by Cam Fowler, who logged 38:54 in a game against Arizona on April 8, 2023. Steve Staios holds the record for a forward at 31:18.).
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Steve Staios played 31 minutes, at foward? The guy might've played forward towards the end of his career with the Islanders but he played D his entire career.
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04-22-2025, 04:45 PM
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#779
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BigThief
Steve Staios played 31 minutes, at foward? The guy might've played forward towards the end of his career with the Islanders but he played D his entire career.
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OK, that explains it. I thought he was a D anytime I saw him, but because he played some forward at the end, QuantHockey has him listed as a forward in their database. Silly QuantHockey.
Removing Staios from the top of the list, we are left with these two entries leading the pack:
Mikko Rantanen, 30:23, 8 Jan 2024, Boston at Colorado.
Nathan McKinnon, 30:22, 8 Jan 2024, Boston at Colorado.
McDavid's career high is 29:23.
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