Rasmus Andersson watch — Will he stay or will he go?

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I suspect he'll garner a bigger return than people think.

Quantity or quality? Let's be specific, what do you think he'll return in a trade this off season?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Maybe Sharks, but I don't see any rebuilding teams adding him. His value right now is that amazing contract. That's gone in a year. They'll want someone locked up long term for pone of their potentially valuable 1sts.

So, that leave contenders. There will be a few very disappointed teams after round one where guys like Andersson and Coleman might fight in.

If Conroy decides to move on from those guys we are talking late 1st picks (probably this year) and other stuff. This won't be a Hamilton style trade. It will be a let's get Ras as a super #4 for a full season at $2.5 M (after retention) and see how he fares, we can extend if things go well or at worst he is a season long (plus playoffs) rental.

All that to say, lower your expectations about what we will get. He's not Hanifin, closer to Tanev.

For that reason, if he will take a team friendly contract, I'd rather keep him.

His cost effective contract is certainly one point of value but it is not his only point of value. If you look at the list of UFA D for 2025 and 2026, none of them have scored more than 9 goals this season, except Andersson. Ekblad is the only RD in the 2025 list with more points and Carlson (35 years old) and Raddysh are the only ones with more points in the 2026 list. Note: Adding LD to the list does add a couple more names with more points but no one with more goals.

Now that Pionk is off the market with his $7M extension, the value of Andersson goes up for any team that is needing to upgrade their RD with someone who can play top pair minutes. Once Ekblad signs, the next best 2025 UFA RD are Ceci and Fabbro... those guys are a dramatic step down from Andersson.

Andersson will be an attractive asset for playoff contenders with tight cap situations for next season as well as bubble teams and teams trying to get out of their rebuilds who need to bolster the top of their D group. I think there will be a big market for Andersson.

Conroy might be willing to trade for a prospect + late 2026 first and bank on it being a deep draft but I think he should leverage the seller's market to get a blue-chip C prospect and skip the pick.

[dammage79]

Full retention Andersson gets you a boat load of quality. Or one very shiny new toy.

Any #2-3 dman under 5m a year is worth a haul. Fully rating that even further, that's a boon.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I suspect he'll garner a bigger return than people think.

Maybe like the Lindholm trade. He was awful before the trade but we got a haul.

That was midseason tho. And he stunk in Vancouver as well. Teams will have all offseason to see that -38 and steadily declining play.

Hopefully Conroy can get some value. The contract has value for the season.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by 420since1974

Assuming Andersson is traded:

The RH side is Weegar, Miromanov, and Pachal, with Brzustewicz, Solovyov, and Kuznetzov in the AHL, the later two can play either side. Parekh is the wild card. Mews is at least two years out.

The LH side is Bahl, Hanley, and Bean, with Aspirot, Solovyov, Kuznetsov, Poirier, and Grushnikov in the AHL. Morin is still several years out.

Bean and Miromanov can be buried in the AHL with little cost.
If none of Solo, Kuz,or Poirier are quite ready, Calgary may need to trade for a veteran D or two.

Miro is barely a 7th dman and it was proven this season by him sitting half the year. I like the person but he's not been reliable as a Dman.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Maybe like the Lindholm trade. He was awful before the trade but we got a haul.

That was midseason tho. And he stunk in Vancouver as well. Teams will have all offseason to see that -38 and steadily declining play.

Hopefully Conroy can get some value. The contract has value for the season.

Plus/Minus is not something teams care about.
It's a nothing stat.
They will be paying attention to his underlying metrics.

[Sofa GM]

Ras probably gets a late first and a decent (not blue chip) prospect. He has a ntc as well so controls his destination somewhat which could hurt the return

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Plus/Minus is not something teams care about.
It's a nothing stat.
They will be paying attention to his underlying metrics.

Why track it ?

The underlying numbers have gone down as well. Two stats stood out the blocked shots and plus minis.

But his contact is valuable especially with a rising cap and the opportunity for his new team to slot him well. I just wonder about his contract demands that might scare teams away. Not every team is a disaster like the Canucks that we can fleece.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I don't know why it's tracked. It's a useless stat that still gets reported on because it's always been reported on even though it tells you little to nothing, and there are far more telling metrics that can be used.

If a team is making personnel decisions using plus/minus they are utter fools.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I did t say any team would base decision on just that stat. But it just adds to all his numbers including underlying stats that have all gone down.

[FlamesAreOne]

Have any of our insiders said much about this situation yet?

[Enoch Root]

Once the summer edition of The Hockey News gets delivered and GMs see all those juicy plus minus numbers, we'll never get him traded

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Ras probably gets a late first and a decent (not blue chip) prospect. He has a ntc as well so controls his destination somewhat which could hurt the return

It's 6 teams. We can assume Edmonton and Vancouver are on the list. So really it's 4.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

Have any of our insiders said much about this situation yet?

Royle has said he's done as a Flame.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

Have any of our insiders said much about this situation yet?

Royle9 said he’s gone. He also told us about his injury beforehand as well.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

I'm here for the comical stare at a flames fan wearing his old Flames jersey when he comes to town with his new team and scores on us.

LOL. he scored 11 goals in 81 games. highly doubtful he scores on us and if he does it would be in a 6-2 loss.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Conroy was fairly clear in his garbage day interviews that he is in no rush to decide next steps with Andersson. Wanted to give him lots of time to Ras to consider what is best for him and his family.

Stated he technically cannot even talk contract until after July 1 which is post draft anyways.

Would not make a decision until he has a sense of contract size and term but also complete an internal review of the depth chart etc...

Conroy will not risk an Andersson injury and wait too long into season to make move and therefore risk getting nothing for him. Best asset he has to add draft capital/young center.

Offseason trade post July 1 move seems least disruptive for team. Also allows some time to find short term UFA Dman for depth if Andersson is moved.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Maybe like the Lindholm trade. He was awful before the trade but we got a haul.

That was midseason tho. And he stunk in Vancouver as well. Teams will have all offseason to see that -38 and steadily declining play.

Hopefully Conroy can get some value. The contract has value for the season.

I said before Lindholm got dealt that all he should get was a 2nd rounder. The all star selection prob helped and the Canucks didn't watch him play all season.

We can use the injury excuse for Rasmus and Conroy can fleece another team for a 1st, a prospect and 2-3 draft picks.

[AustinL_NHL]

I think I saw another person say it, but I think the most logical play this offseason for Conroy is to trade Andersson and sign Aaron Ekblad to a 2-4 year deal.

You'll certainly have to overpay for that type of term for Ekblad I'm sure, but it's something the Flames could easily afford for the duration of the contract.

He brings additional Cup pedigree, as well as the experience of carrying all the weight and living up to all the expectations that came with being an OHL Exceptional Status + NHL #1 Overall pick, so he'd be an absolutely perfect guide for Parekh.

Of course, he also has great relationships with Weegar, Huberdeau and Lomberg, and I could see any combo of Weegar-Parekh, Parekh-Ekblad, Weegar-Ekblad being absolutely dominant.

[Coach]

Still think we should have traded him at the deadline. We haven’t seen any big trade windows with prices like that in years, and it’s a market driven thing it’s pretty unpredictable and before you know it you’re trading him for a 2nd because “that’s just what the market is today”.

I also think a full season and a half of Ras at a discount was probably a better option than having to look at signing him to an 8x9 just to make your trade worth it.

Love Ras, been my favourite Flame since he became full time. Hopefully he commands something at the draft.