2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Yeah also count me in as a fan of the Athletic. I do find their Flames coverage to be pretty poor compared to the other teams I follow but taking them to task on a bit of idle speculation is a bit harsh, journalists in local papers have been doing that for years and some people like reading it.

All that said Flames absolutely can not offer sheet anyone for more than 4.5 mil... the 1st next year has to be completely off the table.

The flames battled hard this year and it was great, but anyone thinking they are close to having a decent team that actually contends is deluded. The core that pulled them to competitiveness is aging out, they did well to give some of the young players coming through confidence but that's all this was. Next year Kadri will be 35, Coleman 34, Backlund 36, Huberdeau 32, Weegar 31-32.

5 of your top 8 scorers are going to decline, if not immediately very shortly. Flames need to stay the course and keep rebuilding. If the value is there any of those guys except Weegar should be gone this summer, zero chance they are here when the flames get a sniff of a cup sadly.

I don't see any signs of decline in Kadri, Weegar, and Huberdeau (age wise with Huberdeau) yet. Wolf, Zary, Coronato, Parekh, Frost, Klapka, Bahl and Parekh will all get better and add to the team.

I don't see the flames getting worse unless kadri and Weegar are moved. And yes, moving that guys would lead to a better pick but it would also stunt the development of the existing young players, removing their mentors.

A major X factor is the cap space. The flames have a lot. Yes they have players to re-sign, but also have flexibility with guys that can easily be moved like Andersson, Coleman and Backlund.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by blankall

I don't see any signs of decline in Kadri, Weegar, and Huberdeau (age wise with Huberdeau) yet. Wolf, Zary, Coronato, Parekh, Frost, Klapka, Bahl and Parekh will all get better and add to the team.

I don't see the flames getting worse unless kadri and Weegar are moved. And yes, moving that guys would lead to a better pick but it would also stunt the development of the existing young players, removing their mentors.

A major X factor is the cap space. The flames have a lot. Yes they have players to re-sign, but also have flexibility with guys that can easily be moved like Andersson, Coleman and Backlund.

I think the Flames path to contention is going to mimic Carolina or Dallas. After this season thoughts of tanking or putting themselves in position to have a good shot at McKenna and/or DuPont seems unlikely.

I think the Flames are going to hitch their wagon to draft and develop opposed to intentionally draft one or two elite superstar prospects at the top of the draft. Can’t they do both? Sure, that would be awesome and it could happen but if there is regression next year, I’m skeptical it will be to the point they’re drafting top 5. The wheels would really have to fall off or a string of long term injuries to multiple core players.

Like the majority here I’d like to see them trade Andersson this offseason. Not because I don’t like the player, I do. It’s just the Flames need to be more proactive, I think, when it comes to leveraging assets. They did try this last year. I suspect had things gone a little differently, they would have been able to trade Mantha for picks/prospects. They could have used some other cap space but things outside their control, Mantha getting hurt and huge cap jumps projected for the next three years, muted those aspirations.

It will be an interesting offseason. On top of Andersson, I’d be interested to be a fly on the wall for the year end conversations with the other vets. Do they all want to stay, or do they want a chance to chase a cup? Seems like Kadri wants to stay. Coleman and Weegar also seem happy to stay. I still think Huberdeau isn’t movable short of the Flames retaining a good portion, willing to take not much back, or some other team’s problem(s). Neal for Lucic type trade. Backlund could be interesting. He’s expiring and depending on how the season goes, he may want that chance at a cup. I think that decision isn’t made till the deadline and would lean towards him staying. That said, who would have thought Marchand would have been dealt to the Panthers?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think the Flames path to contention is going to mimic Carolina or Dallas. After this season thoughts of tanking or putting themselves in position to have a good shot at McKenna and/or DuPont seems unlikely.

I think the Flames are going to hitch their wagon to draft and develop opposed to intentionally draft one or two elite superstar prospects at the top of the draft. Can’t they do both? Sure, that would be awesome and it could happen but if there is regression next year, I’m skeptical it will be to the point they’re drafting top 5. The wheels would really have to fall off or a string of long term injuries to multiple core players.

Like the majority here I’d like to see them trade Andersson this offseason. Not because I don’t like the player, I do. It’s just the Flames need to be more proactive, I think, when it comes to leveraging assets. They did try this last year. I suspect had things gone a little differently, they would have been able to trade Mantha for picks/prospects. They could have used some other cap space but things outside their control, Mantha getting hurt and huge cap jumps projected for the next three years, muted those aspirations.

It will be an interesting offseason. On top of Andersson, I’d be interested to be a fly on the wall for the year end conversations with the other vets. Do they all want to stay, or do they want a chance to chase a cup? Seems like Kadri wants to stay. Coleman and Weegar also seem happy to stay. I still think Huberdeau isn’t movable short of the Flames retaining a good portion, willing to take not much back, or some other team’s problem(s). Neal for Lucic type trade. Backlund could be interesting. He’s expiring and depending on how the season goes, he may want that chance at a cup. I think that decision isn’t made till the deadline and would lean towards him staying. That said, who would have thought Marchand would have been dealt to the Panthers?

Agree with all of this. Could see Coleman traded though. The Flames are at the point that they have too much middle depth and need to make room for prospects.

Coleman, Sharangovich, Frost, Farabee, Zary, Coronato, Backlund, Pospisil, and Klapka. That's 9 forwards that should be seeing middle six minutes. Plus more on the way. One of those guys plays on the top line and 1-2 on the bottom line. Still a lot of bodies though.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yeah I don't subscribe for Flames coverage because I get all I need here and I don't care for McKenzie.
I consume it for more of the league wide stuff, including prospects with both Wheeler and Pronman.

The Athletic had an article this morning grading every teams regular season.

Julian McKenzie gave the Flames a C-, get rid of this guy.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by chummer

The Athletic had an article this morning grading every teams regular season.

Julian McKenzie gave the Flames a C-, get rid of this guy.

Ya, they kind of forced him to write about the Flames and he has been clearly bitter about it. He is terrible.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by blankall

Agree with all of this. Could see Coleman traded though. The Flames are at the point that they have too much middle depth and need to make room for prospects.

Coleman, Sharangovich, Frost, Farabee, Zary, Coronato, Backlund, Pospisil, and Klapka. That's 9 forwards that should be seeing middle six minutes. Plus more on the way. One of those guys plays on the top line and 1-2 on the bottom line. Still a lot of bodies though.

Also a good point.

Listening to 32 Thoughts from this past Monday, Friedman brought up something I thought was interesting while talking about the Canadiens. He spoke about how they are an organization that is concerned about redundancy. Now, this isn’t a new thought or something every other team, to some extent, is aware of.

That said, piggy backing on your comment, the Flames seem to be loaded on left hand shot wingers and right hand shot D. Pretty deep in net as well.

Leaves me to wonder if there’s a deal to be made that might include one of their young prospects for another prospect or young player.


A guy who I’m interested in is Byram. I’ll acknowledge there likely isn’t fit but with some creativity on one side or the other, who knows.

[Roof-Daddy]

I picked the Flames to make the playoffs this year, I thought they would surprise the majority of people who believed they were a bottom 5 team.

IMO they will only get better from here, unless Wolf has some sort of sophomore slump, and his track record says that's unlikely to happen.

Flames will continue to trickle young talent onto the roster at a fairly steady pace. After last night I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see both Parekh and Bru as full time NHLers next year.

They also have a ton of cap space to work with to improve the roster.

[Badgers Nose]

I think last night suggests that Flames can survive without Rasmus if they have to. Make him a fair team friendly offer and if it is not enough move on.

Coleman could really help a contender - there will be a few disappointed teams after 1st round exits this year and I could see them interested in adding a versatile guy who ups his game under pressure and that has won cups. With judicious use of Flame’s retention spot I could see him fetching a really good piece.

I think Backlund is worth more to us than any other team - his value isn’t high. I don’t think he wants to hang up the skates after his contract expires after next season, but do Flames want him past next season? If he will leave anyway, might as well move him too while we can, although it would sting.

[CalgaryFan1988]

While I would like the Flames to move on from Andersson, I don't think they should be making long term plans based off of last nights game.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I think last night suggests that Flames can survive without Rasmus if they have to.

I doubt last night suggests anything, it was basically an exhibition game for the Kings.

They ran 4 lines all night, and just wanted to stay healthy.

Rasmus will be traded as soon as it makes sense for the Flames. He might need to show he is healthy. Of course, if the season starts well for the Flames, who knows what the mindset will be.

[CFO]

Flames top 4 whether next season or shortly after with be Bahl, weegar and parekh.

They can easily sign a veteran for couple years to shore up the 4th.

Andersen should be traded. Flames should be looking to pickup a valardi type center.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

While I would like the Flames to move on from Andersson, I don't think they should be making long term plans based off of last nights game.

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I doubt last night suggests anything, it was basically an exhibition game for the Kings.

They ran 4 lines all night, and just wanted to stay healthy.

Rasmus will be traded as soon as it makes sense for the Flames. He might need to show he is healthy. Of course, if the season starts well for the Flames, who knows what the mindset will be.

Flames aren't making plans based on last night, they are assessing how the plan they made when Conroy took over is coming along.

They have a pipeline of defensemen in various stages of NHL readiness, who will continue to develop this off season though to camp. It’s obvious things look bright in the position and that Flames would be dealing from strength if they move on from Ras due to contract demands they don’t want to meet.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Great comment. the idea that they are pocketing massive profits from the Athletic is just false.

And all of this is rapidly going away. The media serves an important role on society including as a check and balance. It's all vanishing.

We will miss it at some point.

A lot of people who sneer at the MSM get most of their ‘news’ from X or other sources that summarize or put a spin on content that originates from professionals in the MSM. Getting all your news and analysis from part-time youtubers and basement bloggers isn’t going to be the progress people imagine.

[FlamesAreOne]

What do people think the return for Coleman would be? He's 33, coming off a 39 point campaign w/ 15 goals. He has 2 more years at $4.9M.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

What do people think the return for Coleman would be? He's 33, coming off a 39 point campaign w/ 15 goals. He has 2 more years at $4.9M.

Wouldn't be a haul by any means. I'd imagine maybe like a 3rd/4th rounder or b level prospect?

Trading Coleman for me wouldn't be about a the return but more so opening up a roster spot for a younger player - that's why I'd likely wait until the deadline.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

I don’t get the let’s move Coleman talk if we aren’t doing it because we like the return? Isn’t there better ways to open up the roster spots? You can play with you line up on a rebuilding / retooling team, people (including Coleman) don’t need to be slotted perfectly. Just seems like if you don’t need the cap space, Coleman still wants to be here, or the return on a trade isn’t exciting, then of all people on the team setting a culture for our youngsters to learn from, Coleman is at the top of my list for them to learn off of.

[CFO]

A third for Coleman with possible contingent 2nd.

Brandon tanev - similar age returned a 2nd this year. Laughton got a 1st.

Someone will pony up for a quality depth veteran. Happens every year.

[Jiri Hrdina]

On 960 this morning Frank threw out Peterka as a guy the Flames should look at, perhaps as an offer sheet.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

What do people think the return for Coleman would be? He's 33, coming off a 39 point campaign w/ 15 goals. He has 2 more years at $4.9M.

Not much i fear.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I don’t get the let’s move Coleman talk if we aren’t doing it because we like the return? Isn’t there better ways to open up the roster spots? You can play with you line up on a rebuilding / retooling team, people (including Coleman) don’t need to be slotted perfectly. Just seems like if you don’t need the cap space, Coleman still wants to be here, or the return on a trade isn’t exciting, then of all people on the team setting a culture for our youngsters to learn from, Coleman is at the top of my list for them to learn off of.

I also don't think there are a ton of forwards knocking on the door this upcoming season. I think most of the Flames top forward prospects are sitting at least another year out, including Honzek.

And Glencross is one of those guys who's value maybe highest as a rental at a deadline when his contract is expiring. I don't think this summer is the right time.