Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

ooo, wrong pipeline Mark.

That's it, I'm voting for Trump.

[Johnny Makarov]

"that's disrespectful, that's disrespectful"
Do you know what is disrespectful? Quebec wanting to separate. So why don't you sit your bitch ass down and STFU!

[MonaTone]

'Rampaging riots' of people uhh.... Not liking a genocide happening.

[Cole436]

PP's answer on terrorists might be the most iconic piece of this debate. "Defeat the terrorists". What an line lmao

[Jbo]

My takeaways:

-These debates are not changing anyone's mind.
-I'm sorry but the Bloc should not be on stage. I know why they are but it's silly and ridiculous
-PP lost this election when Justin stepped down. He has not been able to position himself as anything but an alternate to JT
-Carney will win a majority by peeling off seats in the west and Quebec

[dammage79]

PP is literally a billboard. That's it. I've heard nothing original from the script they wrote for him. Just a robot programmed with 6 answers and he just repeats repeats repeats.

[dammage79]

I'll say this about the Bloc leader. Id vote for him if he was a Conservative or Liberal

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

"that's disrespectful, that's disrespectful"
Do you know what is disrespectful? Quebec wanting to separate. So why don't you sit your bitch ass down and STFU!

Reminds me of Danielle Smith. Really do not like that man now.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'll say this about the Bloc leader. Id vote for him if he was a Conservative or Liberal

The other 3 completely ignoring the separatist is the one win of the night.

[puffnstuff]

Whens the Rebel news portion of the debate?

[dammage79]

If I hear "lost liberal Decade" one more time....

[Cole436]

How quickly would you be in the hospital if you did a shot every time PP has said "10 years"

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by dammage79

PP is literally a billboard. That's it. I've heard nothing original from the script they wrote for him. Just a robot programmed with 6 answers and he just repeats repeats repeats.

At this stage of the election, it indicates that he has maxed out his processing power.

[Johnny Makarov]

YES!!! Carney is grilling PP on his security clearance!! hahahahahah suck it

Ugh and he effed it up! He didn't rebut him at all. 1/10

[direwolf]

PP just regurgitating the usual bulls*** regarding his refusal to get his security clearance. What a f'n clown.

[kipperiggy]

Can there ever be a political debate without a bunch of bickering interruptions

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Sure. I can certainly agree they were effective in this.



This I disagree with. The NDP could absolutely be a governing party if it so chooses and nearly did so in 2015, at times being ahead of both the Liberals and CPC in polling. The NDP's incredible regression to a point it is today, is absolutely a failure of Singh's leadership.

Being the junior party of a coalition propping up a deeply unpopular leader long past his expiry date was one of the NDP's biggest mistakes they could have done and it likely has cost them official party status which is a huge deal for a cash strapped party trying to remain relevant. The argument being made is that since dental care and the framework for pharma care was implemented, this advancement in policies was worth the sacrifice. I understand the argument.



Singh lost a large part of the NDP base to both the Liberals and Conservatives by ignoring the working class. When Liberals enacted work actions on multiple occasions (Westjet / rails / Canada Post), Singh did nothing. When Canadians were in a cost of living crisis, Singh continuously backed the deeply unpopular and now defunct carbon tax and unpopular Liberal policies.

Without a black swan event hitting the Conservatives and their inability to pivot against Trump's aggression while giving Liberals a major nationalist / anti-populist boost, Conservatives likely win a landslide majority. To claim the shift as somehow being attributed as a NDP success is an odd take.

Currently Liberals are expected to land a majority by shifting significantly further right fiscally than under Trudeau, without the need of the NDP anymore and called this election of their own volition. I personally believe pharmacare will likely go away or deteriorate sometime in Carney's tenure with a majority government, with only the dental plan remaining.

Singh took control of a party that had 20% of the popular vote and has dragged it down to the depth of single digits for a few feathers in his cap by sacrificing it's relevance to Canadians and many of their own voters with only the floor die hards remaining. I see this as a leadership failure, you and a few others see this and advancement of party policies as a success. We will agree to disagree on this.

That's my personal subjective opinion of course

How many times have you voted for the federal NDP?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Whens the Rebel news portion of the debate?

Scrums are cancelled.

[Blaster86]

Anyone else gay for security clearance?

[Fuzz]

Oh shiiit, he's gonna cry!