The 2025 Offseason thread.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its also an incredibly dumb take...he knew the 10th place team would go on a 12 game winning streak at Chirstmas lol

Like seriously what an ass hat...Flames played more than well enough to make the playoffs they might be 13th overall with a win tomorrow. They got a bad beat in the end.

I mean, chirp all you want but the receipts are there. I said (to you, even) before christmas that they were trending not to make the playoffs, and that there was no way they could sustain a level of play that would get them there from christmas to end of season.

Ultimately, I was correct. They were incapable of doing that.

Bad beat? Maybe they should have come together as a team and tried harder at the beginning of the season. Then it wouldn't have mattered what other teams were streaking or not. Look at the Oilers (yuck) they have absolutely sucked for a month now but they had their playoff ticket secured early. We absolutely failed to do this, and it's no one's fault but the players.

Well, maybe management too but that's another conversation.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Hopefully trade Anderrson, Kadri, Coleman and Backlund in the offseason.

Replace them with young players. Tank a bit and get pick 1. We finally get an elite player.

Would be a great next year.

I'm gonna save you months of complaining, this isn't happening

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I mean, chirp all you want but the receipts are there. I said (to you, even) before christmas that they were trending not to make the playoffs, and that there was no way they could sustain a level of play that would get them there from christmas to end of season.

Ultimately, I was correct. They were incapable of doing that.

Bad beat? Maybe they should have come together as a team and tried harder at the beginning of the season. Then it wouldn't have mattered what other teams were streaking or not. Look at the Oilers (yuck) they have absolutely sucked for a month now but they had their playoff ticket secured early. We absolutely failed to do this, and it's no one's fault but the players.

Well, maybe management too but that's another conversation.

Lets be real you didn't think they would get to 94-96 points...or even close. There is a divisional playoff team with less points. They played well enough, a team from the 60s went on a franchise record winning streak and will beat them by 2 points max...maybe even just the tie breaker.

You are also making crap up about them relying on teams to lose out...they needed one result out of 4 games and were 20 seconds away.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

1. Flames attempt to sign andersson to a ludicrous contract extension. Fortunately for us, Andersson declines. Flames keep him until end of season anyways.

Lindy instead of Rasmus. Didn't keep him until end of season but damn near tried.

2. FLA-NJD Conference final means our picks are in the bottom 1/4 of the 1st. We get Jack Nesbitt and Malcolm Spence

Vancouver pick was lower in the 1st than hoped.

3. The flames go hard after Bennett in the offseason, but end up a bridesmaid. Instead, we sign Ehlers to a 8 year contract.

Rumors that the flames showed some interest in both Duchene and Stamkos, ultimately unsuccessful. Signed Mantha (fortunately not 8 years).

4. Parekh starts on the bottom pairing. Sometimes sits for Hanley.

Coronato started in the bottom six and roster spot was uncertain.

5. The flames start strong and fall back by christmas. Spend the rest of the season talking about how we're close to the playoffs and deserve to fight for the guys. Trade the lower of our 1sts before the trade deadline for a journeyman LD.

This did happen, minus the LD trade (though I understand that may not have been for lack of trying)

6. Miss Playoffs.

This happened just yesterday.

So of the things that "literally" happened, the only one is the team played hard until game 81, which was when they were finally eliminated from the playoffs. Got it.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If you want to be taken seriously don't make stuff up.

Take your own advice man. You literally invent points on an hourly basis. In this case, its true. We've been playing trailing team for over a week, and have been lucky that the wild/ blues were slipping a bit. The blues lost three in a row to keep our hopes alive, the wild have been slipping since massive injuries mid season.

[Jiri Hrdina]

When were there rumors of the Flames being in on Duchene or Stamkos?

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I thought it was a really fun season.
If I didn't find it fun - I would find something else to do with my time.

As weird as it seems, some people prefer being miserable over having fun.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lets be real you didn't think they would get to 94-96 points...or even close. There is a divisional playoff team with less points. They played well enough, a team from the 60s went on a franchise record winning streak and will beat them by 2 points max...maybe even just the tie breaker.

You are also making crap up about them relying on teams to lose out...they needed one result out of 4 games and were 20 seconds away.

No, you're right, I didn't. But I'm not making any claims relying on my belief that they would have some sort of late season drive- though i would say in retrospect that it's perfectly typical of this group of players to perform when there's almost no chance.

I am not making stuff up. Look at the stats over the last week. One additional win by the wild or blues earlier in the week would have eliminated us sooner.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

When were there rumors of the Flames being in on Duchene or Stamkos?

in on =/ interested in

[Jiri Hrdina]

ok when were there rumors they were interested in those players

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Take your own advice man. You literally invent points on an hourly basis. In this case, its true. We've been playing trailing team for over a week, and have been lucky that the wild/ blues were slipping a bit. The blues lost three in a row to keep our hopes alive, the wild have been slipping since massive injuries mid season.

Dude the Wild went 3-1 in their last 4 games...the 1 was the Flames stomping them and the other 3 were OT. Blues set a franchise record win streak to scrape by, Wild scored with 20 seconds left after the Ducks missed the EN.

Coming here today and saying "I told you so back at Christmas" is super lame. You know deep down you thought the team would be well under 90 points when you made those comments. Taking a victory lap now is just stupid. It was incredibly close, like one bounce away...if you weren't watching the stetch drive where the Flames were one of the best teams in the entire NHL your loss.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

I think that the Flames had a great season - they were a team that no one expected to complete for a playoff spot to come right up to the last game of the season and another team needing a massive winning streak. They played a fun and hard game the entire season and came up just a little bit short. The future is bright with some good young players, a great young goaltender and some prospects who will hopefully be part of a winning core in a few years.

At the start of the year most people here were counting their trade deadline draft picks. I would rather be here.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Dude the Wild went 3-1 in their last 4 games...the 1 was the Flames stomping them. Blues set a franchise record win streak to scrape by, Wild scored with 20 seconds left after the Ducks missed the EN.

Coming here today and saying "I told you so back at Christmas" is super lame. You know deep down you thought the team would be well under 90 points when you made those comments. Taking a victory lap now is just stupid.

There's no victory lap. I didn't come in here and post that "I was right" I came in and made some comments about the likely future of the team, got a bunch of flack for pointing out truths, pointed out that this wasnt the first time i was pointing them out, and now we're here. Do you not see how stupid your line of reasoning on this is?

I was right, but because they tried hard, it's a stupid point? What the ####?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by D as in David

As weird as it seems, some people prefer being miserable over having fun.

Seems that way...ONE team out of 32 wins the cup but they won't be happy unless the team is dead last or first.

Odd hobby, basically never be happy

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think many people did do this. I only watched about 20% of games since Christmas for example. The season's result was pretty damn clear by then.

You thought they were going to be in the playoff race until next to the end of the season, getting 94-96 points and only missing out due to a team going on a 12-game win streak, so it wouldn't be worth watching 80% of their remaining games?

[Badgers Nose]

I hope Ras extends on team friendly conditions.

With an infusion of D talent coming, he'll start playing less minutes.

New guys and old will dovetail nicely.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

There's no victory lap. I didn't come in here and post that "I was right" I came in and made some comments about the likely future of the team, got a bunch of flack for pointing out truths, pointed out that this wasnt the first time i was pointing them out, and now we're here. Do you not see how stupid your line of reasoning on this is?

I was right, but because they tried hard, it's a stupid point? What the ####?

lol, also there is some nuance to it. You implied you knew at christmas that weren't making it because they couldn't play at a playoff pace, that is false. They played at a traditional playoff pace the rest of the way...your great prediction was saved by a 10th place team winning 12 straight.

You also thought they were a bottom feeder at the start of the season, now bragging about being right when they get 94-96 points. The Flames did WAAAY better down the stretch than you predicted you totally fluked out.

Its like if I said X team won't win the stanely cup and they lose in game 7 OT of the final...I was right I guess but considering how close they came out of all the teams its not exactly anything to write home about.

Next year if you want to do a victory lap give us a points range, not just "they won't win" and then a victory lap when they don't. I can do that with 97% accuracy for every team every season.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

ok when were there rumors they were interested in those players

Monohammer's shower thought = interested in

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol, also there is some nuance to it. You implied you knew at christmas that weren't making it because they couldn't play at a playoff pace, that is false. They played at a traditional playoff pace the rest of the way...your great prediction was saved by a 10th place team winning 12 straight.

No, they didn't. The flames were saved by a 10-4 streak of their own. Again, pick and choose whatever segment of stats you want. In the season, they didn't play to a 96 point pace. Just go look at the snake thread man, it's all right there. You can even see it in colors so that your brain can work it out easier.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I wasnt against putting him in I was against you freaking out for no reason. Team was winning and kept their lineup the same. You never owned your embarassment comment...looks like the Flames will play their guy and the Wild wont. Huh

You are the one who did a 180...he needed to be added immediately but now cant help the team next year?

Full summer of training, camp, not jumping right into do or die. It apples and oranges.

How have I done a 180 and saying he wont help the team. He isn't enough to help the overcome its major lack of elite skill.