2025 NFL Offseason Thread

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's actually a pretty good contract. Raiders can walk away in two years and $33 million a season is solid for a guy that has low mileage for his age and has performed in the range of top 10-15 over the past three seasons.

I'm not the biggest fan of Smith but he's at least average or better which the Raiders haven't had since moving from Carr. Given there's not going to be any great QB options for the Raiders in this draft I'm curious to see how you think they could have done better.

Yeah, that looks better than what Paulie posted.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by devo22

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...led-nfl-owners

the Packers and all the other teams in favor of the ban are losers. Go make your defense figure out a way to stop it ... or go make your offense implement it properly yourself, if it's such a cheat code. But banning a play that a single team is having success with? I don't get it.

also, Jerry Jones being Jerry Jones lol.

I love hating on the Packers more than anybody, but it should be taken out. Not because it can't be stopped at this point but because there's a specific rule that bans DEFENSIVE players from pushing a teammate in the back in order to create pressure on the offense.

The league is already extremely skewed in the favour of an offensive player, they need to at least attempt to balance out the scales

[ResAlien]

That argument might hold water if this would negatively impact anyone but a single team. It's clearly punitive but that's fine, go for it. Go back to the old rules too then for sure. No pushing anyone, no lineman pushing the RB pile, no help, nothing.

To change the rules because the Eagles are better than everyone else at one aspect leans far more pathetic and less balancing the scales.

In short: git gud

[Erick Estrada]

Bill Polian on NFL radio this morning says that the NFL postponing the vote until May means there's likely enough support to make some changes. He said the Commanders sending linebackers over the top in the NFC Championship game is something the NFL does not want to see and will likely spark some sort of change or banishment outright.

As a fan of an AFC West team, I don't have any skin in the game in regards to the Eagles or Packers but I'm personally just not a fan of the play as to me it's not a football play for a runner to be pushed over the line of scrimmage to gain yards and truth be told this is a loophole play that was never intended as the NFL only changed the rule in 2005 to allow pushing the runner because officials were finding it too hard to officiate because in a downfield pileup of players around the ball carrier it was too difficult to discern if teammates were pushing the runner or another player in contact with the runner.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

That argument might hold water if this would negatively impact anyone but a single team. It's clearly punitive but that's fine, go for it. Go back to the old rules too then for sure. No pushing anyone, no lineman pushing the RB pile, no help, nothing.

To change the rules because the Eagles are better than everyone else at one aspect leans far more pathetic and less balancing the scales.

In short: git gud

I'm even in support of keeping it, but let's remove the line push rule for the defense and special teams as well and even the playing field

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

As a fan of an AFC West team, I don't have any skin in the game in regards to the Eagles or Packers but I'm personally just not a fan of the play as to me it's not a football play for a runner to be pushed over the line of scrimmage to gain yards and truth be told this is a loophole play that was never intended as the NFL only changed the rule in 2005 to allow pushing the runner because officials were finding it too hard to officiate because in a downfield pileup of players around the ball carrier it was too difficult to discern if teammates were pushing the runner or another player in contact with the runner.

So if a team runs a sweep and has a trailing lineman push the RB over the LoS, that's not a football play?

[brocoli]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I'm even in support of keeping it, but let's remove the line push rule for the defense and special teams as well and even the playing field

I will say that I am a Packers fan, but this makes the most sense. If we are skewing so heavily to the offence at this point as the NFL is, we need to see some defensive plays come back. The only way to combat this is to allow the defensive line to be pushed right back. Then it's up to the teams to adjust as they always do.

As of right now you can't say one side of the ball can do something while the other cannot to give a clear advantage

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

So if a team runs a sweep and has a trailing lineman push the RB over the LoS, that's not a football play?

Does that even happen much? If an offensive lineman needs to push the runner over the LOS on a sweep that means the play was largely blown up as the idea of a sweep is to get the runner into space outside the hash marks.

[troutman]

Flacco back to the Browns, LOL. Maybe they won’t take Sanders second.

[KelVarnsen]

The GOAT returns!

[Senator Clay Davis]

On the one hand, mortgaging my home on a Flacco MVP push is insane. On the other, it's free money????

[Senator Clay Davis]

New Arch Manning frontrunner

https://twitter.com/user/status/1910799563134292007

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

New Arch Manning frontrunner

Unless Arch has a Heisman-nominee year, I'd be shocked if he declares for 2026.

[Sainters7]

Yeah, he's exactly who I want as Saints future QB, but Mannings usually stick around for their senior year. But a man can dream..

Also interesting timing on the injury news, given recent rumblings Carr wanted out but the Saints forced him back. He's played through all sorts of bad injuries, so this seems...convenient. He's already widely despised by local Saints fans, this news won't help.

[troutman]

Massage Watson to the Saints? Please be true!

https://apple.news/ADzUv95sURqq_hwHFYf3Zeg

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/202...ble-team-fits/

[Senator Clay Davis]

Unless the Browns are attaching some significant draft capital, why would the Saints trade for a guy with a horrible cap future who is unlikely to play next season? I mean yeah if the Browns are offering #2 and a first next year I'd be down to take Deshaun's contract, but otherwise makes no sense even slightly.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Unless the Browns are attaching some significant draft capital, why would the Saints trade for a guy with a horrible cap future who is unlikely to play next season? I mean yeah if the Browns are offering #2 and a first next year I'd be down to take Deshaun's contract, but otherwise makes no sense even slightly.

To ensure they're bad enough in each of the next two years to draft Arch.

What's it going to cost to trade to that spot on the day of the draft. This is a preemptive way to make sure it comes up Milhouse for you.

Why should the Flames fire Huska and see if the Bruins will let them have Joe Sacco for a 4th? To make sure they finish dead last next year and have the best lottery odds.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I mean Spencer Rattler is probably a bad enough QB to get you there, no need to take on an awful contract for someone who might not even be worse than what you have, unless the draft comp is worth it.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I mean Spencer Rattler is probably a bad enough QB to get you there, no need to take on an awful contract for someone who might not even be worse than what you have, unless the draft comp is worth it.

Maybe he will be better in his second season but Rattler looked pretty terrible for a guy that once was highly touted.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Maybe he will be better in his second season but Rattler looked pretty terrible for a guy that once was highly touted.

Probably is terrible, and if you're going to ruin a young QB behind that god-awful offensive line they have, you might as well do it with one you only invested a day 3 pick in instead of one you draft in the first round.