The Playoff Hunt. Flames Vs Wild Vs Blues

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah both guys haven’t been good this year. Was just letting the poster know they are out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Zeev also is unsigned so he can’t play. They are already on record saying he will play once he signs.

[Ashes]

Ah, dang that's too bad but thanks for the info.

I see the Canucks have seven guys on the IR right now. Jeeze what a frustrating year for them.

[Falclore]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Zeev also is unsigned so he can’t play. They are already on record saying he will play once he signs.

The Wild are trying to play a guy who isn't even signed. They are the most embarassing organization in the league.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

To think that if the Blues win streak was 8, even 10 games instead of 12, the Flames might be staring down an easy in.

They won literally exactly as many games as they needed to in order to put the Flames on life support.

I really hope one of these two teams lose 2 points because yessh, Flames deserve better.

A team 11 wins over .500 with a few games left typically is teed up to get in, if not already in.

Unfair circumstances the last 3 years with them missing by 2 points in 2023 despite beating the Jets who they were competing with for the last berth.

Now they beat the Wild in similar circumstances. Hopefully the gods or whoever part the seas for them for working their tails off in spite of not getting luck or bounces like St Louis did.

[Paulie Walnuts]

lol what are you complaining about both the blues and wild have 43 wins to our 38. They are deserving of their spots. Not sure what’s embarrassing about that.

[Tacoman]

Zeev will play on Tuesday. He flew to Minny today.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

lol what are you complaining about both the blues and wild have 43 wins to our 38. They are deserving of their spots. Not sure what’s embarrassing about that.

It’s always well recommended to read and comprehend before responding.

[Caged Great]

I updated OP.

Re-added the Blues.

If the Flames get help, they might have a shot after tonight. They need either/both to get 0 points to realistically have a chance in the final few games.

If either St. Louis or Minnesota loses in regulation, the Flames will have the higher mathematical potential points. Meaning if we win out we're in.

An overtime loss makes it virtually impossible but still possible.

If they both win tonight, then all it will take is one point to not go our way to be eliminated.

[Caged Great]

To me it's going to require the Flames to have a ton of horseshoes starting tonight.

Absolutely need at least one to lose, preferably both.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

If one of these teams opens the door, I think the Flames take the bull by the horns the rest of the way.

If they put in the effort they did against Minnesota they'll beat most teams in this league on most nights. It's encouraging to see that they have that kind of game in them at this stage. Gives me some hope about them taking care of their end.

However, they'll need help. That includes LA and Vegas hopefully having their positioning sorted for when we play each of them to take some of the incentive out of winning, and hopefully also resting players that need maintenance.

[Bourque's Twin]

Would be nice for a Kings win and Knights win tonight so both teams shut it all down for their game against the flames.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Would be nice for a Kings win and Knights win tonight so both teams shut it all down for their game against the flames.

Kings win 5-4 over Avs.
That’s one!


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

To think that if the Blues win streak was 8, even 10 games instead of 12, the Flames might be staring down an easy in.

They won literally exactly as many games as they needed to in order to put the Flames on life support.

I really hope one of these two teams lose 2 points because yessh, Flames deserve better.

A team 11 wins over .500 with a few games left typically is teed up to get in, if not already in.

Unfair circumstances the last 3 years with them missing by 2 points in 2023 despite beating the Jets who they were competing with for the last berth.

Now they beat the Wild in similar circumstances. Hopefully the gods or whoever part the seas for them for working their tails off in spite of not getting luck or bounces like St Louis did.

Calgary is -21in goal differential.

They aren’t missing the, playoffs due to bad luck.

They have worked very hard and are very deserving of our admiration, but when you score much less than you give up, it is what it is.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Calgary is -21in goal differential.

They aren’t missing the, playoffs due to bad luck.

They have worked very hard and are very deserving of our admiration, but when you score much less than you give up, it is what it is.

That's one stat. Here's another: only 7 teams have fewer regulation losses than they do.

They have earned their place in the standings, and yes, with a little puck luck, they are easily in the playoffs

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Flames should be much further up the list if not for their OT/SO record. If anything they've been unfortunate strictly due to their opponents having individual talents that could seal more of those games in the 3 on 3. Heck, they have less regulation losses than the Oilers, which means the only thing separating the two teams is the skills competition.

If goal differential was the be all/end all, then it should be the first tie breaker, or determine the standings altogether. It is not, and does not.

So I don't know what you're fussing about.

Most points/regulation wins gets you in. That's the system, so that's all that matters.

Meanwhile you're going on about goals scored vs allowed. Who cares? I bet a good chunk of that negative differential is the amount of EN they've allowed (leading to a lot of 2 or 3 goal losses that were 1 goal games until the final minutes).

Otherwise they're a team that plays one goal games nearly every night. They're not going to rack up a huge positive differential with their style. Doesn't make them any less worthy to be where they are.

[Groot]

Regarding goal differential, I posted this on March 8. Updated with last months games in parenthesis.

Flames have and continue to win tight games. They have lost several by wide margins. There's the goal differential.

Flames Wins by 3 goals = 9 (10)
Flames Wins by 4 goals = 0 (0)
Flames Wins by 5+ goals = 0 (0)

Flames Losses by 3 goals = 8 (9)
Flames Losses by 4 goals = 3 (4)
Flames Losses by 5 goals = 2 (2)

The goal differential in wins/losses by 3 goals is +3. The goal differential for wins/losses by 4 goals is -16. The goal differential in wins/losses by 5 goals is - 10.

So in 6 games they got blown out, the goal differential is -26. The remaining 73 games they have a positive goal differential.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Zeev also is unsigned so he can’t play. They are already on record saying he will play once he signs.

Haha, they should have signed him what an embarassment

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

A team 11 wins over .500 with a few games left typically is teed up to get in, if not already in.

I've said this before- the thing is you are only looking at one of the "loss" columns. The Flames have 38 wins and 41 total losses. Blues and Wild are 43-37.

The reason I always say to compare wins/losses to determine .500 is that it typically the tipping point. You pretty much cannot be under .500 in total losses and make the playoffs. Often 9th may be over .500- but I don't recall any team recently getting in when over .500 in total wins/losses.

The old way of looking at it stems from when there used to be tie games, but in those games each team only got one point. In a system where some games are worth 3 points, you cannot count an OTL as a tie.

What is interesting is this year could be a year where the Flames could get in being under .500 and still making it in.

[dino7c]

Montreal likely gets in and their record is worse than the Flames...they are both well over on points percentage...you can't really count an OTL as a loss the way the league hands out points.