Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Makarov

The "Canada is broken" mantra is even sillier when it comes from people who live in Alberta (and especially people who live in Calgary). Alberta is the wealthiest province in Canada, with the highest incomes and a reasonable cost of living. Calgary has, over the past fifty years, grown from a two horse prairie stop-over to an incredibly wealthy, sophisticated and diverse metropolis (that happens to be an hour away from some of the most beautiful places in the entire world).

You unquestionably live in one of the best jurisdictions that a human being has ever lived in the entire history of humanity.

NOTE: obviously I'm not trying to shut down legitimate discussion about how we can improve this country. That is absolutely fair (and vital). I'm just sick of the "Canada is broken" nonsense.

Sure, but can we agree that the weather is broken here at least?

[MrButtons]

I've really started to have a disdain for opinion articles since people have started treating it like actual journalism, not, you know, an opinion. I ain't even going to link Jordan Petersons that he did in the globe and mail. But for those who say the "mainstream media" is all over Carney, here are the titles of the last bunch of Opinion pieces:

- First reading: Should conservatives believe their doomed polls?
- Ryan Alford: Poilievre has been vindicated for refusing security clearance
- Mark Johnson: TDSB goes out of its way to cancel Canadian History
- Jordan Petey: Are older liberal-voting Canadians selfish - or blind?
- Chris Selley: Meet Danielle Smith, Patriot
- Randall Denley: Tax cuts are better tariff defence plan for Ontario than handouts
-Jamie Sarkonak: Tariffs are to Trump what DEI is to the left
- First Reading: Liberal promises just keep happening to intersect with Carney's business interests
-Terry Glavin: Carney may not know why China likes him, but it's plain for all to see
- Terry Newman: Pierre Poilevre is ready to be prime minister
- Amy Hamm: Smith is right, progressive men can't handle conservative women

Very pro-carney, bunch of bootlickers these people are

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Sure, but can we agree that the weather is broken here at least?

Unequivocally. And if people want to blame the Liberals for that, I'll allow it. Someone must be held accountable for snowstorms in June.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Unequivocally. And if people want to blame the Liberals for that, I'll allow it. Someone must be held accountable for snowstorms in June.

That’s more of an Alberta thing. Gotta blame the UCP for that one.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by MrButtons

I've really started to have a disdain for opinion articles since people have started treating it like actual journalism, not, you know, an opinion. I ain't even going to link Jordan Petersons that he did in the globe and mail. But for those who say the "mainstream media" is all over Carney, here are the titles of the last bunch of Opinion pieces:

- First reading: Should conservatives believe their doomed polls?
- Ryan Alford: Poilievre has been vindicated for refusing security clearance
- Mark Johnson: TDSB goes out of its way to cancel Canadian History
- Jordan Petey: Are older liberal-voting Canadians selfish - or blind?
- Chris Selley: Meet Danielle Smith, Patriot
- Randall Denley: Tax cuts are better tariff defence plan for Ontario than handouts
-Jamie Sarkonak: Tariffs are to Trump what DEI is to the left
- First Reading: Liberal promises just keep happening to intersect with Carney's business interests
-Terry Glavin: Carney may not know why China likes him, but it's plain for all to see
- Terry Newman: Pierre Poilevre is ready to be prime minister
- Amy Hamm: Smith is right, progressive men can't handle conservative women

Very pro-carney, bunch of bootlickers these people are

This is precisely why Pierre wants to get rid of the CBC, he knows they can't be bought like these North Korea Post articles pumping out propaganda.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

This is precisely why Pierre wants to get rid of the CBC, he knows they can't be bought like these North Korea Post articles pumping out propaganda.

“The Liberals are just fear mongering over the threat of the US. The American Republican-owned ‘Canadian’ news outlet told me so.”

[StickMan]

Edit: post deleted to save Bring_Back_Shantz sanity.

https://orders-in-council.canada.ca/...=47207&lang=en

[Fuzz]

I haven't looked into it, but this sounds like Elon Musk style outrage. Upset about the normal functioning of government because the person you cribbed it from doesn't understand how things work. Unless you found this all on your own.

[surferguy]

OMG the passport office is open, in the middle of an election!!!

[Drak]

What? The government isn’t allowed to function during an election? And it’s a secret but somehow some trolling rando on Calgary Puck knows all about it? Stop the presses.

[StickMan]

"Four years ago, Brookfield paid $5 billion for Modulaire Group, one of the world’s largest manufacturers of modular homes. Now Carney and his Liberals are promising to have the Canadian government build tens of thousands of modular homes to alleviate the housing crisis."

Mark Carney promised heat pumps and prefabricated homes, both of which he owns a major stake in

[Mazrim]

So secret that it's available on a public government website with exact dollar amounts shown.

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Canada's Liberal cabinet just secretly authorized spending $40.3 billion of our taxpayer wealth on their programs — in the middle of an election.

How? Executive decree known as an "order in council."

Media coverage: Zero.

"$40.3 BILLION DOLLARS - Order in Council - Governor General Signs off during Prorogue Parliament & Election
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
$178,154,676
Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs
6,709,190,359
Department of Indigenous Services
6,257,916,341
Department for Women and Gender Equality
92,288,381
Department of Employment and Social Development
1,712,060,872
Privy Council Office
113,927,125
Treasury Board Secretariat
1,100,200,396
Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
25,346,200
Immigration and Refugee Board
38,619,423
Department of National Defence
4,511,034,415
....."


https://orders-in-council.canada.ca/...=47207&lang=en

Correct me if im wrong here, but isnt this because parliament isnt in session, the gov fiscal year starts April 1 and these services need the money from April 1 - May 15th? It's also treated more as an advance on the budget, not extra spending no?

Also, "on their programs"? Come on man the only increase non-budgeted was Northern Affairs and Trade, both kinda make sense to me anyways.

I'm curious where you dug this bad boy up if media hasn't covered it.

[indes]

"18 years ago Indes started a career in Oil & Gas, which paid him well. Now he drives his car to work every day, using gasoline as the fuel source".

Common sense, or a devious plot to keep himself employed? Just asking questions.

[StickMan]

"Mark Carney: You Can’t Lead a Country You’re Not Honest With.

Another day, another headline — this time, Carney claims he’s “never heard of” a pro-Beijing group, even though they posted a photo of him at a meeting with their leadership.

But this isn’t an isolated slip — it’s a pattern:
1. Brookfield Moves to New York — and He Downplays It.
As Vice Chair of Brookfield Asset Management, Carney was part of the leadership when the company quietly moved its headquarters from Toronto to New York. He’s barely acknowledged the move — and hasn’t answered why one of Canada’s largest companies left under his watch.
2. No Financial Disclosure.
Unlike every Member of Parliament, Carney has never disclosed his financial holdings, assets, or foreign income. For someone seeking to be Prime Minister, that’s unacceptable. What does he own? Where are his investments? Who stands to benefit?
3. Foreign Interference Denials, but Still No Registry.
He now denies knowing a group with pro-Beijing ties — but this comes as the Liberal government continues to refuse to implement a foreign agent registry. Canada remains one of the only Western democracies without one. Why are they afraid of transparency?

Canadians aren’t fooled.

Before asking to lead 40 million people, maybe Carney should have run as an MP, where his record — business, financial, and foreign — could be properly scrutinized.

No more secrets. No more dodging. No more insider privilege.

If you want to lead this country, start by being honest."


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...e-photos-with/

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by StickMan

"Four years ago, Brookfield paid $5 billion for Modulaire Group, one of the world’s largest manufacturers of modular homes. Now Carney and his Liberals are promising to have the Canadian government build tens of thousands of modular homes to alleviate the housing crisis."

Mark Carney promised heat pumps and prefabricated homes, both of which he owns a major stake in

I mean, as someone who was quite close to the modular building industry for shy of a decade, i'd argue that it's a terrific solution. Modulaire doesnt even operate in North America but as the article says "is a specialist of rapid urbanization". Oh gee, it would be so bad to have someone help plan our housing needs whos seen first hand how to scale it!

https://mbimodularbuildinginstitute....nload/LyKQXG2p This might open your eyes a bit in the fact it's not anything new.

https://structures.atco.com/en-ca/mo...l-housing.html Oh weird! Even the heart of Alberta Atco also does it.

[Fuzz]

Mr StickMan seems to be inhaling large quantities of far right media this morning. Pace yourself.

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Mr StickMan seems to be inhaling large quantities of far right media this morning. Pace yourself.

I ain't touchin that last one. I was also reading something by Michael Lewis and this quote stuck out. It was referring to Trump and willful ignorance but think its applicable in great white north too:

There is an upside to ignorance, and a downside to knowledge. Knowledge makes life messier. It makes it a bit more difficult for a person who wishes to shrink the world into a worldview

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by MrButtons

I'm curious where you dug this bad boy up if media hasn't covered it.

It was floating around in the mentions of Conservatives on social media earlier this week/late last... the responses there (even in some of their more friendly spaces) was basically the same there that it was here. Namely "The Government functions while parliament is dissolved you dummy and it needs money to function."

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Canada's Liberal cabinet just secretly authorized spending $40.3 billion of our taxpayer wealth on their programs — in the middle of an election.

How? Executive decree known as an "order in council."

Media coverage: Zero.

"$40.3 BILLION DOLLARS - Order in Council - Governor General Signs off during Prorogue Parliament & Election
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
$178,154,676
Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs
6,709,190,359
Department of Indigenous Services
6,257,916,341
Department for Women and Gender Equality
92,288,381
Department of Employment and Social Development
1,712,060,872
Privy Council Office
113,927,125
Treasury Board Secretariat
1,100,200,396
Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
25,346,200
Immigration and Refugee Board
38,619,423
Department of National Defence
4,511,034,415
....."


https://orders-in-council.canada.ca/...=47207&lang=en

My brother in Christ, I am sorry the education system failed you.