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Old 04-10-2025, 02:46 PM   #24021
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Anyone who ignores how dysfunctional this country is has their head up their ass. A few of the many things that separate us include:

1. Poor interprovincial trade. Oh wait...that's going to fixed in no time at all. Give me a break.

2. Dealing with a province that every now and then decides to separate. A province that has had far too big an influence on the rest of Canada over the past 75 years.

3. Policies that restrict development of our resources e.g. C-69, C-59, C-48

4. A highly biased press funded by the Federal Government e.g. CBC
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Old 04-10-2025, 02:55 PM   #24022
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Anyone who ignores how dysfunctional this country is has their head up their ass. A few of the many things that separate us include:

1. Poor interprovincial trade. Oh wait...that's going to fixed in no time at all. Give me a break.

2. Dealing with a province that every now and then decides to separate. A province that has had far too big an influence on the rest of Canada over the past 75 years.

3. Policies that restrict development of our resources e.g. C-69, C-59, C-48

4. A highly biased press funded by the Federal Government e.g. CBC
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Old 04-10-2025, 02:59 PM   #24023
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Anyone who ignores how dysfunctional this country is has their head up their ass. A few of the many things that separate us include:

1. Poor interprovincial trade. Oh wait...that's going to fixed in no time at all. Give me a break.

2. Dealing with a province that every now and then decides to separate. A province that has had far too big an influence on the rest of Canada over the past 75 years.

3. Policies that restrict development of our resources e.g. C-69, C-59, C-48

4. A highly biased press funded by the Federal Government e.g. CBC

The irony of number 2 on a board based in Alberta, a province led by a treacherous #### who continuously talks about separating, is delicious. Actually, the absolutely astounding similarities between Alberta and Quebec are growing day by day. It's only a matter of time until Danielle Smith stands before the PMO and adds item 10 to her current 9 item list, which will be "Making 'Idiot' the official third language"

Save your self-righteous bull####. The only people feeling separate are the provinces being led by people actively trying to find reasons to separate them.
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Old 04-10-2025, 03:01 PM   #24024
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You could've put #4 as #1 and saved us all the trouble of reading through 1-3 only to get to the most bull#### point of all which basically invalidates everything you posted.

Be better.
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Anyone who ignores how dysfunctional this country is has their head up their ass. A few of the many things that separate us include:

1. Poor interprovincial trade. Oh wait...that's going to fixed in no time at all. Give me a break.

2. Dealing with a province that every now and then decides to separate. A province that has had far too big an influence on the rest of Canada over the past 75 years.

3. Policies that restrict development of our resources e.g. C-69, C-59, C-48

4. A highly biased press funded by the Federal Government e.g. CBC
Well there’s no more room up yours, so where else are they supposed to go?

Like it or not, and I imagine you won’t, Canada is a work in progress and an example of a very healthy, functional democracy. Cries of “Canada is broken!” have been brought to the light, mocked, and dismissed as the destructive, far right, anti-Canadian rhetoric they are.

1. It’s not going to be fixed in “no time,” but they’ve been working to fix it and will continue to work to fix it. This is something that all countries like ours face, and all countries like ours and including ours work to address. Conservatives demanding it get fixed tomorrow are the same ones who still shriek about things like the NEP. So it’s time to pipe down and let the adults work.

2. Now and then? When is now? The fact that the situation with Quebec was resolved peacefully and democratically and continues to be maintained peacefully and democratically is a testament to this country, not a sign of its dysfunction. Don’t look now, but the government you currently support has plenty of supporters that are looking to separate, and are asking for another country to intervene. Your vote is responsible for enabling this dysfunction and threat of aggression.

3. I get that Albertans hate anything that might be seen as restrictive to “drill baby drill,” but thankfully most adults in the room have long realized that things like having healthy international trade relationships, ensuring development remains responsible, enhanced national security, and a good democracy are more important. So while PP might stomp his feet about things like the industrial carbon tax, people forget that certain trade partners require such things, which is why (even in Alberta), provinces would not remove it even if they could. You point to these bills are signs of dysfunction, when what you’re actually complaining about is that Alberta can’t just do whatever it want in whatever province it wants and you think you have a problem with the other because someone told you to have a problem with it. Are they perfect? No, but that’s why we debate them on their merits, and we’re able to do that because we have a healthy, functional democracy.

4. There are many public broadcasters across the world, and the benefit of them is that they are less beholden to private interests, so you don’t find yourself in a situation like Canada could be in without the CBC, where the majority of the media is owned and controlled by far right, American Republicans who actually mandate more conservative coverage. Have you ever taken issue with the bias of the National Post? or the Herald? or the Sun? Or do you just slop it up? Because the right solution is not to remove the CBC, but to do as Carney has proposed, and make it above the influence of any party. In PP’s world, as we’re seeing in this campaign, the only media with a seat at table will be far right, American owned, conservative-friendly outlets. Carney will take questions from anyone, PP doesn’t even want unbiased outlets at the table. And you think the CBC is the problem? Get real.

TL;DR Canada is a great example of a healthy, functioning democracy and like all healthy, functioning democracies, it’s not a finished product and never will be. The anti-Canadian, pro-American push from conservatives to undercut, diminish, and ultimately break Canada is disgusting, and it’s time to take out the trash.

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Anyone who ignores how dysfunctional this country is has their head up their ass. A few of the many things that separate us include:

1. Poor interprovincial trade. Oh wait...that's going to fixed in no time at all. Give me a break.

2. Dealing with a province that every now and then decides to separate. A province that has had far too big an influence on the rest of Canada over the past 75 years.

3. Policies that restrict development of our resources e.g. C-69, C-59, C-48

4. A highly biased press funded by the Federal Government e.g. CBC
Another conservative whose politics are based on personal grievances and victimhood.
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Anyone who ignores how dysfunctional this country is has their head up their ass. A few of the many things that separate us include:

1. Poor interprovincial trade. Oh wait...that's going to fixed in no time at all. Give me a break.

2. Dealing with a province that every now and then decides to separate. A province that has had far too big an influence on the rest of Canada over the past 75 years.

3. Policies that restrict development of our resources e.g. C-69, C-59, C-48

4. A highly biased press funded by the Federal Government e.g. CBC
This is why we took lead out of the gasoline. Sorry it was too late to help you.
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Anyone who ignores how dysfunctional this country is has their head up their ass. A few of the many things that separate us include:

1. Poor interprovincial trade. Oh wait...that's going to fixed in no time at all. Give me a break.

2. Dealing with a province that every now and then decides to separate. A province that has had far too big an influence on the rest of Canada over the past 75 years.

3. Policies that restrict development of our resources e.g. C-69, C-59, C-48

4. A highly biased press funded by the Federal Government e.g. CBC
I find it ironic that Alberta and Quebec are the most alike of any other two provinces in this country for their standoff-ishness and "woe is me" attitude. Feels like it's always these two provinces that have the radicals threatening to separate.

The big difference is, Quebec can be a swing province for politics because, in general, Canada as a whole is more left leaning, so Cons need the west to win government, but the Liberals don't. So Quebec can flip flop between the two and have influence, where as the West, we always vote conservatives, and the cons just squeak by as long as they get all our votes.
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Old 04-10-2025, 03:43 PM   #24029
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PP is taking on average 4 media questions per day, and usually all from outlets that are friendly to him.

That's less than half of what Carney is taking and 1/3 of what Jagmeet Singh is taking.

Harper was notoriously bad for taking questions from the press. Trudeau wasn't much better. I'd rather we not continue to move in the wrong direction.

EDIT: Here he is calling a journalist a protester. Pathetic.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6717169

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Other than the CBC, are other media outlets reporting on this? I did a quick google search on the Calgary Herald and didn't get any hits. Could just be my search criteria, but I wouldn't put it past Post Media to ignore the story.*

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I never figured how Alberta thinks they can separate being a completely land locked landbase. QC at least has multiple export routes at their disposal with the St.Lawrence seaway and if they built out to Hudson Bay. ABs only hopeful outcome is that B.C joined them in leaving Confederacy but then you're exposed to a military take over from the U.S simply because you're extremely under manned and underpowered. And maybe AB is okay with becoming part of the U.S but I know B.C is not. Nor will they ever be.

And then you have SK on the other end, cool. But you're still landlocked and have to trade with Canada anyway.

Central provinces just don't have the capability to separate and function successfully. It's dumb and makes no sense.
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Geezus christ, you want to talk about bias, have you seen how many outlets the Postmedia Network have snatched up in this country? An American-owned company with a very right wing agenda, no less?
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Is Carney better than Poilievre? Yes.
Is Carney better than Poilievre? Yes

Is the Liberal Party more capable of managing this country than the UPC? That's debatable. (Both are inept unfortunately).
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Is Carney better than Poilievre? Yes

Is the Liberal Party more capable of managing this country than the UPC? That's debatable. (Both are inept unfortunately).
When you consider how much the CPC actively despises and rejects expertise, academia, etc., yeah the Liberals are absolutely better equipped to run the country on the sole ground that their policies are more likely to be evidence-based.
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Geezus christ, you want to talk about bias, have you seen how many outlets the Postmedia Network have snatched up in this country? An American-owned company with a very right wing agenda, no less?
I once had a guy in a class I was taking refer to the Calgary Herald as a "Left-wing Rag" I suspect fever probably thinks along similar lines... I think a lot of people internalizes their own position on the political spectrum as neutral and therefor only press coverage that echos it is "fair" and any that deviates from it as "bias".

It's the reason that Fox News has "Fair and Balanced" as it's motto despite having a clear political preference. There is an unspoken part of the motto which is "Fair (to conservatives) and Balanced (because other media tilts the scales)".

It's claptrap of course, but it explains it I think.

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Is Carney better than Poilievre? Yes

Is the Liberal Party more capable of managing this country than the UPC? That's debatable. (Both are inept unfortunately).
I mean I guess some people debate whether the earth is flat so technically trying to frame the Liberals as incompetent as the UCP or the CPC is not the dumbest thing you could argue.
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Carney and Singh both agreed to be interviewed by Nardwuar. Any chance Poilievre does too?


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It's funny seeing some of the same things written in this thread that I hear from some members of my family, who are clearly not Liberal supporters. Everything is terrible, broken, Liberals have driven the country into the ground over the last 10 years, etc.

As soon as those same family members get out and hang out with friends and family and travel and whatever else, they're all smiles, having a great time, life is great. As soon as they watch whatever they do on TV and go on their phones everything is terrible again.

Most of the time it's a good idea to put your phone down or close your laptop and just get out and live life. Canada is not perfect by any means, but it is not broken. If we can do some things better, let's do it. But overall Canada is an awesome country filled with awesome people. We are extremely lucky to live here. You don't need to look at our country as negatively as you can, life is too short.
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“Canada is broken” is the same propaganda as Make America Great Again.
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Using Make Canada Great Again is a little to on the nose for even pp
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