Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Point Blank]

Smith actually needs to stfu tho. We need the premier to actually be working, not flying to Florida to talk to a bunch of morons.

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by Titan2

I didn't realize we had our very own insider. Cool. It would be cool to know who you are if it is already public. If not, I respect that.

It does sound like your post is the makings of an article or report. This kind of bull#### is why people think PP and crew are aligned with Trump because they act just like them.

D'oh. So you are just a loser nobody like the rest of us? Sad.

Not sure if you’d be interested in this little piece of info, but my sister was actually contacted by UCP’s chief of staff to discuss a possible advisory role to Danielle Smith to better appeal to moderates in Alberta, as my sister had a very prominent role in CBC. This occurs shortly after Nenshi was chosen as the NDP leader.

My sister said the meeting was very amateurish, they asked very surface level questions and appeared completely unprepared, knowing nothing about her work with CBC. At the end they didn’t follow through with this role when they realized they don’t need to appeal to moderates to probably still win the next election.

Not really a federal politics thing but thought it might be interesting to note here.

[StickMan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Another point for Carney vs. Pollievre, if the U.S does spiral into a 1930s style recession, I think I trust Carney more to navigate the entirely new minefield.

I mean at this point as long as trump is Manning the helm I cannot see how they don't spiral into a massive recession.

Carney is the same as Trudeau, it is still the same liberal party it has been for the last 9yrs, nothing will change, things will continue to get worse, Carney will put his ideology and financial interests first instead of do what is best for Canada. The only way to get change in this country is to vote out the corrupt liberals.

[troutman]

Why would your CBC sister agree to help the UCP?

[Drak]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Carney is the same as Trudeau, it is still the same liberal party it has been for the last 9yrs, nothing will change, things will continue to get worse, Carney will put his ideology and financial interests first instead of do what is best for Canada. The only way to get change in this country is to vote out the corrupt liberals.

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by troutman

Why would your CBC sister agree to help the UCP?

If you had the opportunity to advise our premier, you don’t think you’d take it? She’s definitely not a fan of the UCP, but she’s the type that feels like she can make a difference there.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Carney is the same as Trudeau, it is still the same liberal party it has been for the last 9yrs, nothing will change, things will continue to get worse, Carney will put his ideology and financial interests first instead of do what is best for Canada. The only way to get change in this country is to vote out the corrupt liberals.

Still doesn't answer the question on why more Canadians prefer Liberal over Conservatives even after all this "last 9 years".


Cons ####ed this up real bad. Got nothing to blame but themselves. Who are we kidding though, they'll blame this on the lib/left/wokeness too.

[TorqueDog]

Stop quoting StickMan. Please. The guy is irredeemably stupid. We discovered this over COVID and he’s only become more and more brain-damaged since. Not a single thing he posts is novel, compelling, or pondered for any length of time before hitting ”Submit Reply”. This is not even a man saying “I should type the dumbest combination of words I can muster”, it is simply a reflex, an unfiltered expression of his very nature.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Carney is the same as Trudeau, it is still the same liberal party it has been for the last 9yrs, nothing will change, things will continue to get worse, Carney will put his ideology and financial interests first instead of do what is best for Canada. The only way to get change in this country is to vote out the corrupt liberals.

Would you vote for the conservatives if Carney was their leader?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Stop quoting StickMan. Please. The guy is irredeemably stupid. We discovered this over COVID and he’s only become more and more brain-damaged since. Not a single thing he posts is novel, compelling, or pondered for any length of time before hitting ”Submit Reply”. This is not even a man saying “I should type the dumbest combination of words I can muster”, it is simply a reflex, an unfiltered expression of his very nature.

Stickman with his same old schtick.

Dude is going to stroke out after 14 years straight for the Libs... lol

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

If you had the opportunity to advise our premier, you don’t think you’d take it? She’s definitely not a fan of the UCP, but she’s the type that feels like she can make a difference there.

Making a difference by helping them to win more votes? Not something I would ever do.

[flamesfever]

I think Carney's plan to revitalize out economy will include:

1. the building of a trans Canada oil pipeline, paid for in large part by your tax dollars (probably not a bad idea).

2. the capping and phase out of our oil and gas industry by 2050. His close associates, Guilbeault and Butts will be at his side cheering him on. Other countries will produce the oil and gas that we decide not to (forget about Canada being an energy superpower).

3. a program similar to what happened during WWII where the government built thousands of one and a half story houses throughout Canada. However, the ones that Carney builds will be mostly row houses, townhouses and apartment complexes. You can bet Brookfield will have a significant piece of that action.

[woob]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I think Carney's plan to revitalize out economy will include:

1. the building of a trans Canada oil pipeline, paid for in large part by your tax dollars (probably not a bad idea).

2. the capping and phase out of our oil and gas industry by 2050. His close associates, Guilbeault and Butts will be at his side cheering him on. Other countries will produce the oil and gas that we decide not to (forget about Canada being an energy superpower).

3. a program similar to what happened during WWII where the government built thousands of one and a half story houses throughout Canada. However, the ones that Carney builds will be mostly row houses, townhouses and apartment complexes. You can bet Brookfield will have a significant piece of that action.

Why would he spend the economic and political capital for #1 while also doing #2 by 2050. That makes no sense. It'll take 10 years to build a national pipeline, at best. And cost untold billons. All to be shut down in 20 years? Try again.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by woob

Why would he spend the economic and political capital for #1 while also doing #2 by 2050. That makes no sense. It'll take 10 years to build a national pipeline, at best. And cost untold billons. All to be shut down in 20 years? Try again.

Environmental extremists seem to be short of common sense e.g. Guilbeault's sudden change from net 2035 to 2050, when he heard that Carney was coming aboard.

Another example of environmental short sightedness was Butt's Green Energy program in Ontario where they handed out contracts to farmers who built solar panels at $ .85 a kilowatt for 20 years. The cost of power got so high that some people had to choose between eating and staying warm.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

3. a program similar to what happened during WWII where the government built thousands of one and a half story houses throughout Canada. However, the ones that Carney builds will be mostly row houses, townhouses and apartment complexes. You can bet Brookfield will have a significant piece of that action.

High density is the housing that's needed. The places that need pricing relief due to supply/demand imbalances are the major cities (and especially their city centres) and you can only add more housing there if it's high density.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Carney is the same as Trudeau, it is still the same liberal party it has been for the last 9yrs, nothing will change, things will continue to get worse, Carney will put his ideology and financial interests first instead of do what is best for Canada. The only way to get change in this country is to vote out the corrupt liberals.

Chretien and Martin were also Liberals and nothing like Trudeau and I thought that was a pretty good run.

Carney will be no more like Trudeau than Pee Pee is like Harper (which is obvious as Harper has a Masters in Economics where as Poilievre just read a book written by Milton Friedman at 16 and I'm guessing some Ayan Rand)

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I laughed, but it's bad form to insult other leaders, particularly you already know there is sensitivity with this province. As negative as Smith has been in various statements he shouldn't sink to that level, it will only feed the beast.

I do get that, and it was kind of my first thought as well. But I think he's not trying to appeal to AB or her. Like, he showed up to meet with her and she sends a list of demands - she's already shown she's gonna be a pain in the side. What my gut tells me, is he's appealing to the rest of Canadians who see her and are disappointed that's how shes acting. That he sees it, can joke about it, but I haven't seen a serious attack on her.

In AB I am confident that the people in favour of her have a 0% chance of voting for him, and those who seriously don't like her, are leaning to vote for him. But what's driving voters into the Liberals is fear that the conservatives are turning MAGA, so you I think its smart to keep tying the conservatives to them when its easy (Smith vs. Ford)

As an aside, I was with someone who had some insight into how that first meeting went between the Premier and PM, and they said something like "when we (UCP) met with Trudeau, it was whatever cause he's the dumbest person alive. Carney is a different beast, he knows everything, and you can't string him along"

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by MrButtons

I do get that, and it was kind of my first thought as well. But I think he's not trying to appeal to AB or her. Like, he showed up to meet with her and she sends a list of demands - she's already shown she's gonna be a pain in the side. What my gut tells me, is he's appealing to the rest of Canadians who see her and are disappointed that's how shes acting. That he sees it, can joke about it, but I haven't seen a serious attack on her.

In AB I am confident that the people in favour of her have a 0% chance of voting for him, and those who seriously don't like her, are leaning to vote for him. But what's driving voters into the Liberals is fear that the conservatives are turning MAGA, so you I think its smart to keep tying the conservatives to them when its easy (Smith vs. Ford)

As an aside, I was with someone who had some insight into how that first meeting went between the Premier and PM, and they said something like "when we (UCP) met with Trudeau, it was whatever cause he's the dumbest person alive. Carney is a different beast, he knows everything, and you can't string him along"

Still, he needed to rise above that, we need someone who is a unifier and deliberately deriding her was poor form. Of course he’s not gonna win any of her supporters votes, but that’s not the end game here, it’s to be an actual leader.

In the end likely not a big deal, but it’s an unnecessary own goal.

[WideReceiver]

Gee Poilievre is drawing some big crowds.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Not sure if you’d be interested in this little piece of info, but my sister was actually contacted by UCP’s chief of staff to discuss a possible advisory role to Danielle Smith to better appeal to moderates in Alberta, as my sister had a very prominent role in CBC. This occurs shortly after Nenshi was chosen as the NDP leader.

My sister said the meeting was very amateurish, they asked very surface level questions and appeared completely unprepared, knowing nothing about her work with CBC. At the end they didn’t follow through with this role when they realized they don’t need to appeal to moderates to probably still win the next election.

Not really a federal politics thing but thought it might be interesting to note here.

Very interesting. Shows how dumb they are. This is working for now, and since nothing ever changes it should be fine forever.

What is your sister doing now?