04-07-2025, 01:17 PM
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#201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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To make sure he didn't tweak or injure something in that season and those playoffs?
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04-07-2025, 01:34 PM
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#202
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
And how do you propose they do that, without getting a practice or two in with the team? That's the point - they can't know yet, and it would be irresponsible to put him in the lineup, until they do know
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Calling it irresponsible is wild.
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04-07-2025, 01:43 PM
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#203
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Toonage
He just finished a season in the OHL and playoffs. Why on Earth would he require fitness testing?
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So the Flames training staff can see where he is at physically. Just because he went through and OHL season and playoffs doesn't mean he is good physically.
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04-07-2025, 01:45 PM
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#204
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Powerplay Quarterback
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What is the rush to get him into games? I get that we all want to see him play, add in Suniev for that matter. Just having them be around the team and practicing with pros, will be a huge advantage for them going into next season.
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04-07-2025, 01:45 PM
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#205
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Fitness testing is pretty intensive. And unnecessary for a kid thats played the full season and playoffs. A physical? That I could see.
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04-07-2025, 01:47 PM
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#206
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by JTech780
What is the rush to get him into games? I get that we all want to see him play, add in Suniev for that matter. Just having them be around the team and practicing with pros, will be a huge advantage for them going into next season.
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Because if we had an average pp or an average 3 on 3 record we would be fighting Vegas and the Kings for 1st place in the division.
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04-07-2025, 01:51 PM
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#207
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Fitness testing is pretty intensive. And unnecessary for a kid thats played the full season and playoffs. A physical? That I could see.
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If he can't handle fitness testing then he probably isn't ready for NHL games.
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04-07-2025, 01:53 PM
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#208
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I don't think you realize what fitness testing entails.
They aren't bringing a kid into the fold and making him go through what prospects and vets go through at the start of the season having just come off a playoff round.
Did Suniev? Nope.
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04-07-2025, 01:54 PM
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#209
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I've been rather apathetic towards the team this year with their veteran-laden roster, not much to get excited about.
A playoff race, coupled with a Parekh call-up? I might just be grabbing my first tickets to a game this week.
It's kind of remarkable what young and exciting players can do to drive interest in the team.
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04-07-2025, 01:54 PM
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#210
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Lifetime Suspension
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LOL he is not going through fitness testing. He would likely get a physical like most players do joining a new team, but it's ridiculous to think he would go through fitness testing.
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04-07-2025, 02:04 PM
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#211
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Crash and Bang Winger
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All this talk about not being ready, should start in the AHL, needs to work on XYZ is the same crap everyone was saying about Gaudreau when he came here. The kid dominated Jr., hockey give him a chance and let him play. Live with some mistakes and see what he can actually do.
Just like Suniev. Can't skate good enough (you know who else can't skate - Tkachuk), should play in AHL etc. The fans have been complaining about goal scoring, the kid can score, put him in to play.
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04-07-2025, 02:09 PM
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#212
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Parekh (and Suniev) in ASAP. I have no hope that we are going to make the playoffs at this point. I'd be fine if they just started treating the rest of the games that way. The best thing that could happen is Parekh is a difference maker and by some miracle, they do make the playoffs. The worst thing that can happen is they miss, which I am completely resigned to. At this point, it is about entertainment value and building hope.
I can see rational arguments for not putting him in right away though. The jump from the OHL to the NHL is huge, and if they don't think he is ready for the physical punishment, it might be better to acclimatize him a little first. Also, even though I as a fan have pretty much given up playoff hopes, I don't think the veterans on the team have. If Parekh comes in for a veteran and doesn't deliver, that could get him off on the wrong foot with the guys who are probably in a very serious mindset. I just don't think you want to put that on the kid. I don't think Huska wants to put that on himself either. Unless the players are advocating for it, it just seems like it could cause unnecessary drama if it backfires if you take a veteran out who was battling all year with the team, in favour of a teenager with no NHL experience.
As soon as the team is mathematically eliminated though, I think they should play as many of the kids as possible. If they play him sooner, I'm pretty OK with that too from an entertainment point of view. I just think it comes with more risk.
Regarding Makar, it is also worth mentioning that Girard was injured in the previous game which probably made the decision easier for the Avs as they wouldn't have to healthy scratch someone.
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04-07-2025, 02:12 PM
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#213
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
What is the rush to get him into games? I get that we all want to see him play, add in Suniev for that matter. Just having them be around the team and practicing with pros, will be a huge advantage for them going into next season.
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The rush is that if they still believe they can make, and I gotta think the players and coaches do, then he is a better option on defence than Bean, Pachal or Miromanov. He's certainly a better PP2 option than Rasmus.
Limit his minutes, do the best you can to get favorable matchups. They are playing the freakin Sharks. I can't think of a better first game for a teenager to get his feet wet.
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04-07-2025, 02:12 PM
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#214
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
He just finished a season in the OHL and playoffs. Why on Earth would he require fitness testing?
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Because the Flames training staff should assess him and make sure he's not playing through anything that could set him back even longer.
Remember when Sam Bennett couldn't do a pullup because he was hiding a separated shoulder?
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04-07-2025, 02:13 PM
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#215
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I keep seeing Makar mentioned in comments also. Do you know what they both have in common, besides the huge upside, the geniuses that run Team Canada World Jr., team deemed they weren't good enough to play in the top 6. Makar at least got to start the tourney as the 7th Dman.
Imagine earning your living evaluating talent and not seeing that these 2 should have been the first guys on your list. Mental.
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04-07-2025, 02:13 PM
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#216
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Parekh (and Suniev) in ASAP. I have no hope that we are going to make the playoffs at this point. I'd be fine if they just started treating the rest of the games that way. The best thing that could happen is Parekh is a difference maker and by some miracle, they do make the playoffs. The worst thing that can happen is they miss, which I am completely resigned to. At this point, it is about entertainment value and building hope.
I can see rational arguments for not putting him in right away though. The jump from the OHL to the NHL is huge, and if they don't think he is ready for the physical punishment, it might be better to acclimatize him a little first. Also, even though I as a fan have pretty much given up playoff hopes, I don't think the veterans on the team have. If Parekh comes in for a veteran and doesn't deliver, that could get him off on the wrong foot with the guys who are probably in a very serious mindset. I just don't think you want to put that on the kid. I don't think Huska wants to put that on himself either. Unless the players are advocating for it, it just seems like it could cause unnecessary drama if it backfires if you take a veteran out who was battling all year with the team, in favour of a teenager with no NHL experience.
As soon as the team is mathematically eliminated though, I think they should play as many of the kids as possible. If they play him sooner, I'm pretty OK with that too from an entertainment point of view. I just think it comes with more risk.
Regarding Makar, it is also worth mentioning that Girard was injured in the previous game which probably made the decision easier for the Avs as they wouldn't have to healthy scratch someone.
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Ya, but you’re scratching Bean. He’s used to it already. I think even the vets would prefer someone like Parekh coming in.
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04-07-2025, 02:14 PM
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#217
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
The rush is that if they still believe they can make, and I gotta think the players and coaches do, then he is a better option on defence than Bean, Pachal or Miromanov. He's certainly a better PP2 option than Rasmus.
Limit his minutes, do the best you can to get favorable matchups. They are playing the freakin Sharks. I can't think of a better first game for a teenager to get his feet wet.
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They would never rush an 18 year old who's never played an NHL game with the expectation that it saves their flickering playoff hopes.
That's irresponsible.
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04-07-2025, 02:17 PM
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#218
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
They would never rush an 18 year old who's never played an NHL game with the expectation that it saves their flickering playoff hopes.
That's irresponsible.
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He's 19.
No one said the expectation is that he saves their playoff hopes.
But he certainly couldn't hurt. He would make mistakes, 100%. You know who else makes mistakes? Bean, Miro and Pachal. You know what those three don't have? The offensive upside of ZP.
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04-07-2025, 02:18 PM
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#219
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
What is the rush to get him into games? I get that we all want to see him play, add in Suniev for that matter. Just having them be around the team and practicing with pros, will be a huge advantage for them going into next season.
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The rush is we need a better powerplay. It's cost us in recent games.
I'd practice him in some PP drills immediately and look to slot him in one of the next two games.
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04-07-2025, 02:20 PM
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#220
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba17
I keep seeing Makar mentioned in comments also. Do you know what they both have in common, besides the huge upside, the geniuses that run Team Canada World Jr., team deemed they weren't good enough to play in the top 6. Makar at least got to start the tourney as the 7th Dman.
Imagine earning your living evaluating talent and not seeing that these 2 should have been the first guys on your list. Mental.
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Yeah, there's no excuse for not being able to notice generational-level talent at a position.
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