View Poll Results: When will Ovechkin break Gretzky's goal scoring record?
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This season
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Next season
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He won't break the record
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04-07-2025, 12:47 AM
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#721
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
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Why don’t you guys take the politics to the off topic section.
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04-07-2025, 01:41 AM
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#722
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by Goriders
Why don’t you guys take the politics to the off topic section.
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lol. God you conservatives have such thin skin.
And zero sense of humour. Although i guess I shouldn’t be surprised right wingers can’t tell the difference between real news and satire.
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04-07-2025, 02:50 AM
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#723
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
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Did you 'seriously' quote the beaverton. Or just for satire?
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04-07-2025, 03:10 AM
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#724
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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I watched some Gretzky highlights last night. His skating was nice and fluid, his stick handling and puck protection were top tier, his vision was ridiculous, it's clear the way he thought the game was far ahead of everyone else on the ice. But man, I just can't get over how bad a lot of the goaltending looked in the 80's......
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04-07-2025, 06:28 AM
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#725
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
I watched some Gretzky highlights last night. His skating was nice and fluid, his stick handling and puck protection were top tier, his vision was ridiculous, it's clear the way he thought the game was far ahead of everyone else on the ice. But man, I just can't get over how bad a lot of the goaltending looked in the 80's......
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Players were still regularly smoking in that era. Different athletes, different equipment, different game. Still shouldn't take away from the accomplishments made during those times but context matters.
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04-07-2025, 07:34 AM
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#726
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We all know athletes across pretty much every sport are better than in decades past. Babe Ruth was fat. Jesse Owen’s records are routinely broken by U.S. college athletes, never mind Olympians. Glenn Hall probably wouldn’t be a starter on an AHL team today.
Training is much better. Equipment is much better. Coaching is much better. And since the financial rewards for top athletes are so much higher today, there’s incentives right from early childhood to find and exploit every avenue of improvement.
But it’s safe to assume that if those tools and incentives were in place for Ruth, Owens, and Hall, they would have used them. They could only excel in the contexts of their times, and they did excel.
If training and equipment continue to improve, we might see someone beat Ovechkin’s record in another 30 years. And future fans might look back on the hockey of 2005-25 and scoff at how inept Ovechkin’s opposition was (the goalie was beat by an undeflected shot from above the circle LOL!!!). But that won’t diminish Ovechkin’s accomplishment.
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04-07-2025, 07:57 AM
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#727
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Suck it hasek!
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04-07-2025, 09:19 AM
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#728
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The NHL surprisingly did a terrific job of the ceremony. Fair play to Wayne, he did a great job with his speech too.
All class from Islander fans, although undoubtedly that arena was probably 1/2 full of Caps fans. Or more. Still a terrific atmosphere in a visitor's building.
You just knew the tying goal and record goal were going to be signature goals of his, and they were.
I thought Wayne referencing that Leonsis should buy Ovi a Rolls Royce was funny... cap circumvention? LoL.
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04-07-2025, 10:15 AM
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#729
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
I watched some Gretzky highlights last night. His skating was nice and fluid, his stick handling and puck protection were top tier, his vision was ridiculous, it's clear the way he thought the game was far ahead of everyone else on the ice. But man, I just can't get over how bad a lot of the goaltending looked in the 80's......
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I get into this discussion frequently, old-timers like their old timers but hockey in the 70s and 80s is awful and largely unwatchable to a modern audience.
Goaltending was atrocious, defence was garbage, I can walk on ice faster than most players could pass the puck.
Go watch a 'Classic' hockey game and you might make it barely 10 minutes.
We moan and complain but this modern-era of hockey is the best it's ever been.
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04-07-2025, 10:22 AM
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#730
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congratulations
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04-07-2025, 11:32 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
lol. God you conservatives have such thin skin.
And zero sense of humour. Although i guess I shouldn’t be surprised right wingers can’t tell the difference between real news and satire.
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I'm no conservative myself but I mean..... talking about having a sense of humour and posting a beaverton article?
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04-07-2025, 11:42 AM
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#733
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Originally Posted by jeffman
Suck it hasek!
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Who will be the last one laughing when Ovie is vacationing in Ukraine this summer?
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04-07-2025, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I thought Wayne referencing that Leonsis should buy Ovi a Rolls Royce was funny... cap circumvention? LoL.
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There is a clause in the CBA that teams can follow "Traditional Hockey Practices" to give players milestone gifts outside of the cap structure.
Maybe that was Wayne trying to establish that giving a player a luxury car for breaking the all-time goals record is tradition, and since he's the only one to have done it in the last 60 years, I guess it is. I wonder what Gordie got when he broke the record in 1963?
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04-07-2025, 11:44 AM
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#735
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Originally Posted by getbak
There is a clause in the CBA that teams can follow "Traditional Hockey Practices" to give players milestone gifts outside of the cap structure.
Maybe that was Wayne trying to establish that giving a player a luxury car for breaking the all-time goals record is tradition, and since he's the only one to have done it in the last 60 years, I guess it is. I wonder what Gordie got when he broke the record in 1963?
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3 packs of smokes!
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04-07-2025, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
There is a clause in the CBA that teams can follow "Traditional Hockey Practices" to give players milestone gifts outside of the cap structure.
Maybe that was Wayne trying to establish that giving a player a luxury car for breaking the all-time goals record is tradition, and since he's the only one to have done it in the last 60 years, I guess it is. I wonder what Gordie got when he broke the record in 1963?
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Company scrip that could only be used at the Joe Louis Arena concession stand.
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04-07-2025, 12:43 PM
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#737
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NOT breaking news
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04-07-2025, 01:05 PM
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#738
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
lol. God you conservatives have such thin skin.
And zero sense of humour. Although i guess I shouldn’t be surprised right wingers can’t tell the difference between real news and satire.
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I have leathery skin at this point in my life. I just don’t want to have to wade through your yelling at clouds. There are plenty of venomous threads in the off topics section for you to do that.
Betting I’m speaking for most of the people in this one.
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04-07-2025, 01:09 PM
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#739
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I get into this discussion frequently, old-timers like their old timers but hockey in the 70s and 80s is awful and largely unwatchable to a modern audience.
Goaltending was atrocious, defence was garbage, I can walk on ice faster than most players could pass the puck.
Go watch a 'Classic' hockey game and you might make it barely 10 minutes.
We moan and complain but this modern-era of hockey is the best it's ever been.
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I used to say that too about watching the classic games until I watched one between the Habs and Nordiques from the 70s or early 80s.
Full team brawl in the warmup. Before the refs were on the ice. Then another full team brawl at the end of the first period.
Old time hockey can be fun too!
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04-07-2025, 01:57 PM
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#740
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
And future fans might look back on the hockey of 2005-25 and scoff at how inept Ovechkin’s opposition was (the goalie was beat by an undeflected shot from above the circle LOL!!!). But that won’t diminish Ovechkin’s accomplishment.
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Lol probably true, but I am laughing thinking about how horrifically boring this theoretical future league you've created would be!
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