Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Blaster86]

Alberta should be ashamed this #### got into power.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Alberta should be ashamed this #### got into power.

This life-long Albertan is ashamed of my province.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Alberta should be ashamed this #### got into power.

Every single moron who voted for her deserves a kick to the crotch!

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Alberta should be ashamed this #### got into power.

I mean the way that UCP voters have fled this page, never to be heard from again, tells you all you need to know about how little shame their ilk feels.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I mean the way that UCP voters have fled this page, never to be heard from again, tells you all you need to know about how little shame their ilk feels.

The fact that they’re still active in the federal politics thread trying to lob the most flaccid, dimwitted criticisms at Liberals while ignoring the absolute embarrassment they helped create is super funny.

[The Big Chill]

They may be quiet, but they still support her. Nenshi will have to run an amazing campaign just to even have a chance.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

They may be quiet, but they still support her. Nenshi will have to run an amazing campaign just to even have a chance.

That's sort of what I mean. They'll take their pissing and moaning to the federal thread but won't own up to the dumpster fire they put into power in Alberta.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by rubecube

That's sort of what I mean. They'll take their pissing and moaning to the federal thread but won't own up to the dumpster fire they put into power in Alberta.

Who are you even talking about? And what are you even talking about?

Different people different contexts different things different everything.

[GGG]

What bugs me about the UCP is they haven’t made oil and gas any easier to construct or operate. The regulators are still far stricter than the adjacent jurisdictions and still have the same timelines. Outside of a corporate tax cut they haven’t done much for O+G

Tier is a better regulation than SEGR but outside of that they have not helped.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by indes

Nah, most Albertans are uninformed and love the UCP and CPC. They couldn't tell you a single policy or decision the parties have made in the last decade but blue = O+G = good. I heard this from 3 people this week. Nothing but twitter soundbites about the Libs from anyone.

Not a clue about anything, just Blue = good. I don't have as much faith in our populace as some of you.

Overheard two locals saying how terrible Carney is (like Justin). I guarantee none of them ever heard of Carney three weeks ago.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Who are you even talking about? And what are you even talking about?

Different people different contexts different things different everything.

He was pretty specific.

“Different everything” is an incredibly lame excuse for the people who acknowledged voting for and championed Smith and the UCP turning around and pretending this thread doesn’t exist while they cry about Carney’s thesis paper from 30 years ago in the federal thread.

It’s just stupid.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I had a manager of an Oilfield services company tell me this week that he can't fire anyone anymore, thanks to Trudeau.

Yeah sure bud, Justin Trudeau had his grubby mitts all over Alberta's employer friendly, provincially-made employment standards

It's no longer arguing opinion or values. Facts are no longer facts

Well if he is somehow federally regulated, which is a remote possibility depending on what they actually do or handle, then there is some truth to that. The federal labour law is completely terrible and it almost is impossible to get rid of an employee, it’s probably easier if you had a union to be honest. It’s bad legislation.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I had a manager of an Oilfield services company tell me this week that he can't fire anyone anymore, thanks to Trudeau.

Yeah sure bud, Justin Trudeau had his grubby mitts all over Alberta's employer friendly, provincially-made employment standards

It's no longer arguing opinion or values. Facts are no longer facts

He probably thinks Trudeau invented severance pay.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Well if he is somehow federally regulated, which is a remote possibility depending on what they actually do or handle, then there is some truth to that. The federal labour law is completely terrible and it almost is impossible to get rid of an employee, it’s probably easier if you had a union to be honest. It’s bad legislation.

“Completely terrible”

“it almost is impossible to get rid of an employee”

“probably easier(to get rid of an employee) if you had a union”

Pretty bold statements here.

While the federal code provides far better protections for federally regulated employees compared to Alberta’s code(which really isn’t saying much) it’s nowhere near what you’re describing and frankly your statements suggest you either really have no idea how the code works or are just intentionally blowing smoke here.

There’s around 1M federally regulated employees and all Canada Industrial Relations Board decisions are made public. So if you want to easily prove me wrong go ahead and find 10 examples of employees(around 0.00001 of the total federally regulated workforce) whose employer had just cause to terminate their employment but were not able to do so because of the federal code. That should take no time if the problem is as serious as you claim it is.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

“Completely terrible”

“it almost is impossible to get rid of an employee”

“probably easier(to get rid of an employee) if you had a union”

Pretty bold statements here.

While the federal code provides far better protections for federally regulated employees compared to Alberta’s code(which really isn’t saying much) it’s nowhere near what you’re describing and frankly your statements suggest you either really have no idea how the code works or are just intentionally blowing smoke here.

There’s around 1M federally regulated employees and all Canada Industrial Relations Board decisions are made public. So if you want to easily prove me wrong go ahead and find 10 examples of employees(around 0.00001 of the total federally regulated workforce) whose employer had just cause to terminate their employment but were not able to do so because of the federal code. That should take no time if the problem is as serious as you claim it is.

I work in a federally regulated company and the bar is very, very high, such that our legal counsel has made it clear how high the risk of reinstatement is if someone chooses that route. Maybe our legal counsel is very conservative, I don’t know, but all I know is that even with generous severance it seems there’s pretty big risk.

So I do deal with this and we are frustrated by the way it is being applied and not blowing smoke. Again, maybe we are just risk adverse, but I think there’s some flaws here.

My issue with it is sometimes it’s best to just part ways, and it seems hard to do that.

[SportsJunky]

Flipping throught the channels last night and saw This Hour Has 22 Minutes mocking Smith. They skewered her pretty good in a bit where she's on a podcast proclaiming her love for PP and Trump. Maybe someone can find the clip?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

I work in a federally regulated company and the bar is very, very high, such that our legal counsel has made it clear how high the risk of reinstatement is if someone chooses that route. Maybe our legal counsel is very conservative, I don’t know, but all I know is that even with generous severance it seems there’s pretty big risk.

Taking the vagueness of this explanation into account and noting that you apparently couldn’t find any actual examples where the law prohibited an employer from terminating an employee with cause I think I can comfortably say that you probably need to get better legal counsel if you actually believe what you’re saying here. I say that as someone who deals with federally regulated companies and see people terminated for cause on a fairly regular basis.

So I do deal with this and we are frustrated by the way it is being applied and not blowing smoke. Again, maybe we are just risk adverse, but I think there’s some flaws here.

Yet you can’t list any specific real world examples of where these “flaws” have actually had the impact you’re claiming they do. I mean if you were to argue things like the federal code provides for too many sick days or things of that nature you could make some arguments since those things are subjective in nature but your statements regarding the code making it almost impossible to fire employees is blowing smoke plain and simple.

My issue with it is sometimes it’s best to just part ways, and it seems hard to do that.

Well just because your employer can’t figure it out when others can doesn’t mean the code is the problem.

Even in Alberta you can’t just fire employees without cause in most cases.

[puffnstuff]

https://www.albertahealthservices.ca...Page18855.aspx

April 1, 2025

EDMONTON — In September 2024, Alberta Health Services (AHS) approved changes to the way food is supplied in our emergency departments and other non-inpatient areas. This policy was supposed to take effect on April 1, 2025.

After media reports surfaced, the Minister of Health raised concerns about the implementation of this policy and asked me to look into reports that food and drink may not have been made available to patients.

The proposed policy was not meant to deprive patients of food. What was meant to change is how food is stored and delivered to patients in an effort to reduce waste that is occurring in our hospitals. I have reviewed this policy which was brought forward prior to my arrival at AHS and, after feedback from clinicians, have decided that AHS will not move forward with these changes.

We are concerned by the misinterpretation of this proposed policy and are looking into reports that food and drink may not have been available to patients.

We remain focused on delivering high-quality care to all Albertans where and when they need it.

Andre Tremblay
Interim President and CEO
Alberta Health Services

If anyone believes this pls contact me, I have a bridge for sale

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

https://www.albertahealthservices.ca...Page18855.aspx

April 1, 2025

EDMONTON — In September 2024, Alberta Health Services (AHS) approved changes to the way food is supplied in our emergency departments and other non-inpatient areas. This policy was supposed to take effect on April 1, 2025.

After media reports surfaced, the Minister of Health raised concerns about the implementation of this policy and asked me to look into reports that food and drink may not have been made available to patients.

The proposed policy was not meant to deprive patients of food. What was meant to change is how food is stored and delivered to patients in an effort to reduce waste that is occurring in our hospitals. I have reviewed this policy which was brought forward prior to my arrival at AHS and, after feedback from clinicians, have decided that AHS will not move forward with these changes.

We are concerned by the misinterpretation of this proposed policy and are looking into reports that food and drink may not have been available to patients.

We remain focused on delivering high-quality care to all Albertans where and when they need it.

Andre Tremblay
Interim President and CEO
Alberta Health Services

If anyone believes this pls contact me, I have a bridge for sale

[Fuzz]

"proposed policy" that a memo was sent out about it's implementation. How is that "proposed"?

Spoiler!

Stop ####ing gaslighting your citizens. Unreal.