2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Not saying I agree with Pat, but guys like Coleman, Backlund, Kadri, etc have talked very highly about how good of a place Calgary is to live and raise a family in. Maybe Bennett feels like he wants to start raising a family, and not in the states...

The Flames still shouldn’t want to sign him even if he does want to sign with Calgary. He is a guy that an actually contender should overpay for and worry about later.

[dino7c]

Not Bennett specifically but the closer we get to a new stadium that does become a draw...playing in the historic domes last season or two and then then opening up a new building.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Doubt that.

Maybe when the building opens.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Even if true, I think the term makes that contract unmovable still.

It is definitely a low probability situation but I no longer think it is impossible. With 27 goals on the season (on a very low scoring team) his salary is probably $1-2M out of whack instead of $5-7M.

But the NMC makes the situation even harder. UHC might be interested in Hubs but he might not be interested in living in Utah.

I am sure the whole thing is a talking point in the exit interview.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Pat Steinberg has made a point of mentioning Bennett multiple times now. Hard to see how we can "outbid" Florida unless we offer something crazy like 8 x 8. I'd love bennett back but can't see how without a huge overpay

Bennett will be getting at least $8 x 8 years. Many teams will be in on the bidding.

Whoever actually signs him is going to horribly regret it. He's turning 29, and there's no way his style of play holds up. Separated from Tkachuk, his numbers are likely to go down, and this year will be the first year he actually surpasses 50 points. He makes the highlight reel with a lot of play, but has many boneheaded plays that can cost his team you don't see on those reels.

The Flames overpaying for Bennett would be the exact opposite of good asset management. Trade a high end asset in their prime for peanuts, then re-sign that asset to a massive UFA payday contract past their prime?

[howard_the_duck]

It goes against my better judgment for how the team should build moving forward, but something about adding Bennett is tolerable to me.

It isn't logical, I just like the player and character and want to undo that awful trade so desperately. For better or worse he just feels like he should be a Flame based on how he's developed since he left.

The major asterisk is that I think the Flames will be adding in free agency, won't tolerate a rebuild of any sort, and are leaning into the re-tool on the fly. And if they're adding, he's a guy I like, regardless of how that contract will age...because entertainment.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Doubt that.

Maybe when the building opens.

Conroy has already stated that players from around the league are already asking about it and looking for comfirmation construction is underway so....
wrong again in your never ending quest to disagree with me

I mean if a player is considering signing long term in Calgary its already a factor obviously as we are a couple years out, like how could it not be?

stability of the franchise, brand new facility vs. unknown, old dump

[FlamesAddiction]

Bennett wouldn't be my first choice. I think if this team is going to play the free agent market, they should go big or not bother. Adding a middle six center doesn't move the needle that much. If the team was already a contender, he would be a good piece to get you over the hump maybe.

Not that all big problems need to be solved until smaller problems are solved, but I wouldn't make them a priority either. There is lots of cap space now, but it won't take long for player salaries to catch up to a growing cap. I would prefer not to lock in to a player like Bennett only to have to pass on future opportunities that actually would move the needle.

[dino7c]

I wonder about short term major overpays...its not like the cap space is useful anyway

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I wonder about short term major overpays...its not like the cap space is useful anyway

Trying to flip a guy like Mantha again is worth it for sure imo

[Funkhouser]

I don't expect much turnover up front for next season.
I do see some new faces on the blueline to start the season and trading Coleman, and potentially Backlund near the deadline.

We will still have Weegar, Kadri, Huberdeau and Lomberg as veterans.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Trying to flip a guy like Mantha again is worth it for sure imo

Yeah I mean too bad about the injury but he would have helped the team and/or been traded for an asset. No risk

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Huberdeau won’t be going anywhere and I highly doubt Kadri is.

Agreed, I was putting the question to those that were talking about moving all, if not most, of the current older players on the team. Many of whom also forget that Kadri has trade protection.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Conroy has already stated that players from around the league are already asking about it and looking for comfirmation construction is underway so....
wrong again in your never ending quest to disagree with me

I mean if a player is considering signing long term in Calgary its already a factor obviously as we are a couple years out, like how could it not be?

stability of the franchise, brand new facility vs. unknown, old dump

I think everyone was looking for confirmation that construction was underway after the #### show Edwards put us through lol.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think everyone was looking for confirmation that construction was underway after the #### show Edwards put us through lol.

exactly, its a factor in potential free agents coming here...Conroy has said so himself like 2 weeks ago. Now and even moreso moving forward. A brand new facility in the near future is a plus for any potential free agent.

[Monahammer]

I sure hope we don't throw money at Bennett.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah I mean too bad about the injury but he would have helped the team and/or been traded for an asset. No risk

Low risk, but it does make a small logjam problem. Pointing to SuperMatt's list again.

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I do think Coleman gets traded at some point here, Farabee feels like his replacement IMO

And if you look at the Flames organizational depth the wing is very deep:

Sharangovich - 26 - LH
Farabee - 25 - LH
Pospisil - 25 - LH
Klapka - 24 - RH
Zary - 23 - LH
Coronato - 22 - RH
-----------------------------
Stromgren - 21 - LH
Honzek - 20 - LH
Suniev - 20 - LH
Hoskin - 20 - RH
Gridin - 19 - LH
Basha - 19 - LH
Battaglia - 19 - LH

That's 13 U-26 wingers with 7 prospects that have pretty good cases to become NHLers at some point.

Instead of trying another Mantha-like signing, I think the Flames are better served to promote from within if a spot opens up in the forward group. Otherwise our roster looks pretty set:

Zary-Kadri-Pospisil
Huberdeau-Frost-Coronato
Farabee-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Sharangovich-Klapka
X: Kirkland

Perhaps a LD signing would work on a 1 year deal with a trade deadline in mind but I would rather see Solovyov and Kuznetsov on the roster.

Bahl-Weegar
Solovyov-Pachal
Kuznetsov-Parekh
X: Bean

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Wolven

It is definitely a low probability situation but I no longer think it is impossible. With 27 goals on the season (on a very low scoring team) his salary is probably $1-2M out of whack instead of $5-7M.

But the NMC makes the situation even harder. UHC might be interested in Hubs but he might not be interested in living in Utah.

I am sure the whole thing is a talking point in the exit interview.

Huby’s exit interview will go something like this, “#### yeah, I finally figured it out here! Now let’s go win something!”

He will never leave here until that contract is up. He doesn’t want to and Flames don’t want to get rid of him. By the time they need the cap space he will be done.

Fans love him. Lots of Huby jerseys in the dome. He is comfortable here.

That’s coming from a guy that really didn’t want him here. Even I’ve come around.

Originally Posted by Wolven

Zary-Kadri-Pospisil
Huberdeau-Frost-Coronato
Farabee-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Sharangovich-Klapka
X: Kirkland

Bahl-Weegar
Solovyov-Pachal
Kuznetsov-Parekh
X: Bean

I think Hanley as the extra D is more likely. And Pospisil doesn’t belong on the 1st line. Flames will hope that someone steals that spot from him in camp.

We really need to package up some wingers to try and land another real centre.

[saillias]

If Bennett was a Calgary Flame as in never traded, this fanbase would have been clamoring to send him out for picks and prospects even more vociferously than for Andersson for the past 2 years. He's exactly the kind of player a rebuilding org looks to sell high on.

[Ped]

Seen a few people bring up the 12th best season by an 18-year old, and others ask well how big is that list?


Here is the top 25 18-year old seasons:


1. Dale Hawerchuk
2. Sydney Crosby
3. Steve Yzerman
4. Jimmy Carson
5. Ron Francis
6. Bobby Carpenter
7. Phil Housley
8. Brian Bellows
9. Patrik Laine
10. Nathan MacKinnon
11. Jeff Skinner
12. Connor Bedard
13. Trevor Linden
14. Jaromir Jagr
15. Kirk Muller
16. Macklin Celebrini (and climbing)
17. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
18. Dan Quinn
19. Ilya Kovalchuk
20. Alexandre Daigle
21. Eddie Olczyk
22. Sam Gagner
23. Ted Kennedy
24. Steve Stamkos
25. Rasmus Dahlin


https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/mos...8-year-old-nhl


So it's a real mixed bag, and some guys that scored more than Bedard didn't end up as stars. I think Bedard could be a star and maybe even a superstar, but a lot of that is up to him. But him scoring as he did as an 18-year old is impressive, but ultimately meaningless, I think.