2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Jason14h]

Who makes the playoffs first - Flames or SJ …..

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Who makes the playoffs first - Flames or SJ …..

I will take a bet that SJ does- but this is beside the actual point. Who cares about limping into the playoffs to lose in 4 games?

SJ, no doubt, will win a playoff series before the flames.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Because I like the direction their team is going in means I should go be a Sharks fan. Ok King Dissentower!

If we aren't allowed to criticize an organization that has won a combined total of 3 playoff rounds in the last 15 years, then what are we even doing here? Why blindly follow the Flames and never criticize any move ever. One playoff win every 5 years is fantastic, let's change nothing!

If you are not a Sharks fan then why do you keep raving how great they are and how bad the Flames organization is?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I will take a bet that SJ does- but this is beside the actual point. Who cares about limping into the playoffs to lose in 4 games?

SJ, no doubt, will win a playoff series before the flames.

I tend to agree on both

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I will take a bet that SJ does- but this is beside the actual point. Who cares about limping into the playoffs to lose in 4 games?

SJ, no doubt, will win a playoff series before the flames.

I'm certain people felt the same with Buffalo/Eichel

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I thought we agreed to stop talking to/about eachother, or is this just another of your frequent, compulsive lies?

Is your name Dino? Or are you saying you are one of the constant negative posters? Are you saying we can't quote something we wrote to address an opinion? Where did I say I was talking specifically about you? My comment was not aimed at you at all.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm certain people felt the same with Buffalo/Eichel

Well if SJ trades Celebrini for spare parts I might change my prediction !

And the Flames may go a decade without a playoff win either way .

It’s in their DNA

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm certain people felt the same with Buffalo/Eichel

Eichel who pretty much immediately won a cup after leaving Buffalo?

Sometimes, the conditions are right but there's something else in the way. In this case you have to think that Buffalo's ownership and the #### storm that surrounds the franchise are what kept that situation down (and continues to). This is why I disagree so much with Paulie on the future of Cozens for example (though his player ratings seem just to be wildly off across the board.)

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Because I like the direction their team is going in means I should go be a Sharks fan. Ok King Dissentower!

If we aren't allowed to criticize an organization that has won a combined total of 3 playoff rounds in the last 15 years, then what are we even doing here? Why blindly follow the Flames and never criticize any move ever. One playoff win every 5 years is fantastic, let's change nothing!

Criticize all you like...but when you say things like the Flames are the worst team in the NHL and Wolf has stolen them 20 points people might call you out for being ridiculous.

Its also easy to pick the worst team in the NHL that also just won the lottery (with an 80% chance of not winning) and say just do that.

Instead of working I would also just go win 649 like what am I even doing with my life.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Because I like the direction their team is going in means I should go be a Sharks fan. Ok King Dissentower!

If we aren't allowed to criticize an organization that has won a combined total of 3 playoff rounds in the last 15 years, then what are we even doing here? Why blindly follow the Flames and never criticize any move ever. One playoff win every 5 years is fantastic, let's change nothing!

The problem is ignoring the fact they at least tried to change.

In terms of the actions the team took this offseason did not predict this outcome TBH.

Goaltending: Rookie Goalie + Goalie coming off hip surgery

Defense: Two top 4 d-men, a young trade acquisition, and a bunch of journeymen

Forwards: 1 Top line forward (that hadn't produced like a top line forward in 4 3 seasons), two natural centers (Backlund / Kadri) and then just a bunch of filler.

The most salary cap space in the league.

This team was built to be a bottom 5 team this year, bottom 10 best case scenario. But strong team play in terms of commitment and effort, plus a great rookie season from the goalie has them in the playoff race.

The outcome might be the same, but this is nothing like those Iginla led teams in the 2007-2013 era, and nothing like the Treliving era Flames.

Now none of us know what this offseason looks like. If the Flames trade picks for veterans or try to sign 29+ year old players to 7 year contracts then I think we can complain a bit about them abandoning the retool / rebuild.

But for now I think all the evidence points to Conroy taking a different approach, but it unexpectedly yielding the same results. And a big part of that is just that there are only like 14 actual good NHL teams, and then like 18 pretty bad ones that the Flames just happened to be less sucky than this season.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Isn't it just entertainment? You just said that in the Bennett thread.

Fans are having fun watching fun young players they have; they might be losing but they are working and seeing a bright future coming up here.

People loved the last half of the FLames 13/14 season when we ended up picking 4th.

Yeah, you cheer for entertainment, and the Sharks aren’t entertaining.

There’s very little consolation in a bright future that might come to pass when you’re getting dummied every night.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Is your name Dino? Or are you saying you are one of the constant negative posters? Are you saying we can't quote something we wrote to address an opinion? Where did I say I was talking specifically about you? My comment was not aimed at you at all.

You literally quoted my post in your reply.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well if SJ trades Celebrini for spare parts I might change my prediction !

And the Flames may go a decade without a playoff win either way .

It’s in their DNA

they missed the playoffs for countless years with Eichel and other top end picks

[Goriders]

Didn’t SJ set a modern day record by losing 20 something game in a row last year?

That’s where we want the bar set?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Didn’t SJ set a modern day record by losing 20 something game in a row last year?

That’s where we want the bar set?

but did they have fun?
SJ literally signed an old UFA this past offseason...shrewd move to finish last again? or were they hoping to be a bit better?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The problem is ignoring the fact they at least tried to change.

In terms of the actions the team took this offseason did not predict this outcome TBH.

Goaltending: Rookie Goalie + Goalie coming off hip surgery

Defense: Two top 4 d-men, a young trade acquisition, and a bunch of journeymen

Forwards: 1 Top line forward (that hadn't produced like a top line forward in 4 3 seasons), two natural centers (Backlund / Kadri) and then just a bunch of filler.

The most salary cap space in the league.

This team was built to be a bottom 5 team this year, bottom 10 best case scenario. But strong team play in terms of commitment and effort, plus a great rookie season from the goalie has them in the playoff race.

The outcome might be the same, but this is nothing like those Iginla led teams in the 2007-2013 era, and nothing like the Treliving era Flames.

Now none of us know what this offseason looks like. If the Flames trade picks for veterans or try to sign 29+ year old players to 7 year contracts then I think we can complain a bit about them abandoning the retool / rebuild.

But for now I think all the evidence points to Conroy taking a different approach, but it unexpectedly yielding the same results. And a big part of that is just that there are only like 14 actual good NHL teams, and then like 18 pretty bad ones that the Flames just happened to be less sucky than this season.

There are almost no players on the team from 3 seasons ago beyond Backlund and Andersson. How much more change can you actually have?

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its not just against the Oilers...any close loss and people on here are freaking out how the Flames are the worst team in league history with Wolf responsible for stealing 20 points. (Thats a real post)

Not everyone to be fair

I have never really understood the small and vocal minority on either side, to be fair. However, sports and 'fandom' should be fun. Losses are going to happen no matter what, and for those that can't handle losses, perhaps they should stop following sports in general! lol


It is just simply better to skip their negative emotional explosions. Sure, it isn't like losses don't bother me - and I did get irate at the last loss in particular - but I don't understand the need to post like you are referring to. I hope I never understand it. Maybe it is just one of those things that you can't understand until you become 'infected'? Some people take swipes at the team as if they are personally insulted by the loss. That's kind of scary once you think about it.



This season has been fun, and I feel sorry (well, almost) for posters who feel compelled to post as negatively as possible and as often as possible, as well as those posters that just seem to be here to pick a fight. Posting here is not a service anyone pays for, nor is it a service that anyone gets paid to do (even Bingo, unless he is secretly making millions of this site! lol). I just don't get how people come here with a mindset to try and make this a toxic place. This is fun. Sports are fun. Sure, absolutely fine to be a little down or even a bit too emotional after a random regular season loss, but yeah, I know what you mean. There is a lot of overdoing it, to say the least! Somewhere, the equivalent of Gaskal is eating up those posts and has a whole group of other people laughing their pants off, right? haha


Win or lose, I am going to watch and appreciate every minute left this season because I know I will be starved by the middle of summer.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

You literally quoted my post in your reply.

Yes I did, I addressed Dino getting crapped on for being so positive. How is that personally coming at you? I don't find all your posts always negative so why would that be an attack at you? I think you are seeing something that isn't there. If you thought just because I commented on your post about another poster as me coming after you I apologize.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by saillias

They probably should've kept Toffoli tbh. They needed to trade our leading scorer for a guy who's scoring managed to keep pace with Toffoli in a career year that he can't replicate because he's really bad at every other part of the game? And then sign him to a worse deal than Toffoli did

How is 3x5.75 for a 26 year old worse than 4x6M for a 30 year old?

And Calgary also got Suniev.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by dino7c

but did they have fun?
SJ literally signed an old UFA this past offseason...shrewd move to finish last again? or were they hoping to be a bit better?

I doubt they signed Toffoli with the playoffs in mind.

I think they picked him up so they can have his presence for the kids and help them succeed while the team sucks.

Seems like it worked because Smith and Celebrinni seem to be close with Toffolli and they are having good seasons.

Smith had a slow start, but is coming around.

Easier to have fun when you are rebuilding but have personal success