2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Monahammer]

I think Chicago would be absolutely insane to trade Bedard. They won't anyways, but they'd have to be insane to consider it.

They need to hold the course. Pitch hard for a big UFA winger (Rantanen would have been good, but Marner is also a great choice.) Draft the BPA forward talent this year (I don't think Centre is mandatory either, but they could use another centre) and then hit it again next season. IMO they are being undersold hard in this thread.

Bedard
Levshunov
Knight

That's a good triad to build off of.
Then you have current players:
Vlasic (23)
Nazar (21)
Reichel (22)

and prospects:
Lardis
Aidan Thompson
Kantserov
Moore
Boisvert
Saarela
Korchinsky

Add another really strong forward prospect this season and I think they have the spice. Probably need to sign another strong D man though- Ekblad? Someone like that will land in Chicago too. I think they're tanking on purpose this year.

Future roster top 6-4 looks like:

Lardis-Bedard- signed UFA (marner?)
Kantserov-Moore-Nazar (or prospect from this year)

Vlasic-Levshunov
Korchinsky- (UFA)

Knight

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Your bit on the opposite side is much, much more tiresome. But sure! Keep the vitriol alive across threads. That's healthy.

My bit is reality, the Flames are exactly as I call them...and average team with some good young players and a ton of capspace.

the Fun Sharks are far worse than any Flames team ever...we have litterally never seen how the fanbase reacts to being that bad one time let alone for muliple seasons in a row. I have my guesses though, half empty building IMO.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I don’t know, I don’t know a single Sharks who actually goes to games who is “having fun” right now lol.

Isn't it just entertainment? You just said that in the Bennett thread.

Fans are having fun watching fun young players they have; they might be losing but they are working and seeing a bright future coming up here.

People loved the last half of the FLames 13/14 season when we ended up picking 4th.

[dino7c]

Sharks have lost their last 2 games 14-2

they have lost by 7 goals multiple times this year

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

My bit is reality, the Flames are exactly as I call them...and average team with some good young players and a ton of capspace.

the Fun Sharks are far worse than any Flames team ever...we have litterally never seen how the fanbase reacts to being that bad one time let alone for muliple seasons in a row. I have my guesses though, half empty building IMO.

Edmonton rolled a weaker team than that (well, close) for a whole decade. They somehow came out with a stronger fan base. Are you saying calgarians lack temerity that edmontonians have?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

My bit is reality, the Flames are exactly as I call them...and average team with some good young players and a ton of capspace.

the Fun Sharks are far worse than any Flames team ever...we have litterally never seen how the fanbase reacts to being that bad one time let alone for muliple seasons in a row. I have my guesses though, half empty building IMO.

Maybe...

But TBH if we had Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Dickinson, Chernyshov, Musty, Askarov... I'd be pretty happy with that and might end up attending more games to see some of those young guys.

The problem isn't avoiding where San Jose is right now. They are still early in the rebuild cycle with lots of entertaining young pieces and a lot of promise. Even with this season from the Flames and the Sharks being bottom 3...I'd still rather be in the Sharks position long term than the Flames position as a fan.

The problem is avoiding where Buffalo is...where you never really get out of the stage San Jose is in right now because you don't add the right pieces and all of a sudden you're stuck on the outside for 10+ seasons and don't even have the hope of "top young pieces" anymore. I'd rather be where Calgary is today, than where Buffalo is...because even though Buffalo likely has the better pieces they don't seem to have any idea how to actually get out of the death cycle of losing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

My bit is reality, the Flames are exactly as I call them...and average team with some good young players and a ton of capspace.

the Fun Sharks are far worse than any Flames team ever...we have litterally never seen how the fanbase reacts to being that bad one time let alone for muliple seasons in a row. I have my guesses though, half empty building IMO.

The building will be empty watching a 10/11 placed team with a goalie.

The team needs winning and star power or people will walk away.

Continually trying to make the playoffs as an 8th seed with 3rd liners will drive fans away.

[dino7c]

I mean its all a false narrative though
"continually trying to make the playoffs as the 8th seed"

Flames have probably traded more high end players than any team in the league the last two seasons. They have 4 firsts the next two drafts and 20M in Cap space.

They did not go all in to make the playoffs, not even close.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

My bit is reality, the Flames are exactly as I call them...and average team with some good young players and a ton of capspace.

the Fun Sharks are far worse than any Flames team ever...we have litterally never seen how the fanbase reacts to being that bad one time let alone for muliple seasons in a row. I have my guesses though, half empty building IMO.

The Flames are not even below average, they are bad.

The Sharks are also not good. But their situation is 1000x better than ours. They have some legit young players, a franchise #1 center who just started his career, and 2 more high 1st round picks this year.

In 5 or 6 years, the Sharks will be a legit contender. This would be the ideal situation I would want for the Flames. Tank and get a franchise player.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Edmonton rolled a weaker team than that (well, close) for a whole decade. They somehow came out with a stronger fan base. Are you saying calgarians lack temerity that edmontonians have?

Yes, there is absolutely nothing going on in Edmonton...not to mention they won 4 lotteries. The chances of that happening every again let alone to the Flames is almost ZERO.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

The Flames are not even below average, they are bad.

The Sharks are also not good. But their situation is 1000x better than ours. They have some legit young players, a franchise #1 center who just started his career, and 2 more high 1st round picks this year.

In 5 or 6 years, the Sharks will be a legit contender. This would be the ideal situation I would want for the Flames. Tank and get a franchise player.

lol here we go...you can make up whatever numbers you want. The Flames are average statistically, yes I know they would be worse if you took away one of their best players (like any team ever)

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean its all a false narrative though
"continually trying to make the playoffs as the 8th seed"

Flames have probably traded more high end players than any team in the league the last two seasons. They have 4 firsts the next two drafts and 20M in Cap space.

They did not go all in to make the playoffs, not even close.

They had to not by choice.

Cap space was kept to either get some assets to get a player. Now they are ready to spend it in the offseason.

This is just the retool year. One of those 20-30th place finishes, and go in the offseason to get some 2nd and 3rd liners so we can finish 16th next season.

Look at their history in the standings. Only 2 years of an attempted rebuild and it was over.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Your bit on the opposite side is much, much more tiresome. But sure! Keep the vitriol alive across threads. That's healthy.

Ya Dino! Stop trying to be a positive fan who enjoys this team! You are offending the slew of negative posters, how dare you??

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

The Flames are not even below average, they are bad.

The Sharks are also not good. But their situation is 1000x better than ours. They have some legit young players, a franchise #1 center who just started his career, and 2 more high 1st round picks this year.

In 5 or 6 years, the Sharks will be a legit contender. This would be the ideal situation I would want for the Flames. Tank and get a franchise player.

Like I said before, there are hockey boards for your Sharks, go find one.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean its all a false narrative though
"continually trying to make the playoffs as the 8th seed"

Flames have probably traded more high end players than any team in the league the last two seasons. They have 4 firsts the next two drafts and 20M in Cap space.

They did not go all in to make the playoffs, not even close.

The Flames also have the second most cap space behind Columbus, and, but for, the unfortunate Gaudreau incident, the Flames would have the most cap space in the league, by 1.96 million.

Just think about that for a moment. There are teams that are losing huge amounts of money, play to less than half arenas. And the Flames are spending millions of dollars less per year to be competitive than those teams.

The Flames are only about $6 million per year above the cap floor at this point. Financially anyways, the Flames are literally doing the least, out of any team in the NHL, to win.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They had to not by choice.

Cap space was kept to either get some assets to get a player. Now they are ready to spend it in the offseason.

This is just the retool year. One of those 20-30th place finishes, and go in the offseason to get some 2nd and 3rd liners so we can finish 16th next season.

Look at their history in the standings. Only 2 years of an attempted rebuild and it was over.

More false narative

I know for a FACT the Flames could have signed Lindholm, Zadorov, and Toffoli....they could have kept Markstom for that matter.

Hanifin I will give you

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yes, there is absolutely nothing going on in Edmonton...not to mention they won 4 lotteries. The chances of that happening every again let alone to the Flames is almost ZERO.

It's full zero, they changed the rules to prevent it.

I think you're copping out here. You're just saying you think the city won't support the flames because there's other things to do? Like what?

People want a hometown sports team. It's not like Calgary is overflowing with other options either.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ya Dino! Stop trying to be a positive fan who enjoys this team! You are offending the slew of negative posters, how dare you??

I thought we agreed to stop talking to/about eachother, or is this just another of your frequent, compulsive lies?

[saillias]

Originally Posted by dino7c

More false narative

I know for a FACT the Flames could have signed Lindholm, Zadorov, and Toffoli....they could have kept Markstom for that matter.

Hanifin I will give you

They probably should've kept Toffoli tbh. They needed to trade our leading scorer for a guy who's scoring managed to keep pace with Toffoli in a career year that he can't replicate because he's really bad at every other part of the game? And then sign him to a worse deal than Toffoli did

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Like I said before, there are hockey boards for your Sharks, go find one.

Because I like the direction their team is going in means I should go be a Sharks fan. Ok King Dissentower!

If we aren't allowed to criticize an organization that has won a combined total of 3 playoff rounds in the last 15 years, then what are we even doing here? Why blindly follow the Flames and never criticize any move ever. One playoff win every 5 years is fantastic, let's change nothing!