[PGT] Oilers 3 Flames 2 in OT

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by flamingred89

Season is done. Draisaitl is the best player in the league. So good for him. Nobody could've predicted the Blues going on their run. Good for them. Flames will finish in 18th.

Sorry that would be Mackinnon or Makar.

[browna]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Teams can go on heaters. It happens all the time. They don't even need to run the table to make it. So it's not as unrealistic as you think.

Is it likely? Of course not. Everyone knows that.

But I don't get the throwing in of the towel at this point by this fan base.

Fan base isn't throwing in the towel, the ones that have cheered for losses many times are the ones first to once again write the obituary.

This is the first time in a couple weeks the Flames haven't had control of their destiny. They can grab that right back within one or two nights or results going the right way, for them or on the OOT.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Teams can go on heaters. It happens all the time. They don't even need to run the table to make it. So it's not as unrealistic as you think.

Is it likely? Of course not. Everyone knows that.

But I don't get the throwing in of the towel at this point by this fan base.

Don’t throw in the towel for the sake of the organization’s culture. But it’s over. This team won’t get on a heater. They don’t have enough scoring HP to sustain that.

Oh well. Lots of positives this year. Build on it in the offseason. They’ll probably be 10 points better this year. Add 10 more next year and they will solidly be in the playoffs.

[Rejean31]

Of course they cut the Hunter Semenko fight off before Hunter really started wailing on him. With what they showed you would have thought Semenko won that fight. I can assure you he didn't. Which is why he sucker punched Hunter overtop the linesman which then brought Peplinski in to challenge Semenko, and then Semenko, the supposed heavyweight champ of the NHL, kicked Peplinski like a little girl.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

We have zero talent outside of our goalie and a few 2nd liners on a good team.

We do not have any 1st line forwards. Realistically, we are 5 years out minimum from contending. With the perfect drafting and signings.

What is a first line forward. You need 3 of them. Is that a guy who is top 75 in the NHL forwards for scoring? What is the definition?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

We have zero talent outside of our goalie and a few 2nd liners on a good team.

We do not have any 1st line forwards. Realistically, we are 5 years out minimum from contending. With the perfect drafting and signings.

It will just be another face plant.

Team is missing a lot of pieces. You can see how the 2 guys hide the decencies in Edmonton. Just 1 playing tonight and he ended the game.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Inferno

That might be my last game of the season. I'm still pretty pissed off at Bahl for just letting Pissy walk in to tie it.

He was actually picked by Hyman.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Don’t throw in the towel for the sake of the organization’s culture. But it’s over. This team won’t get on a heater. They don’t have enough scoring HP to sustain that.

Oh well. Lots of positives this year. Build on it in the offseason. They’ll probably be 10 points better this year. Add 10 more next year and they will solidly be in the playoffs.

I don't share the same optimism for the playoffs. Realistically, this team is extremely lucky to be anywhere near a playoff spot.

Teams that finish last in goal scoring almost always end up bottom 3 in the league. Elite and rare goaltending propped up this team to be much higher than they should have been.

With league average goaltending we are right there with the Blackhawks and Sharks.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

It's not over.

It's over . Not going to catch the 7 point deficit to the wild and blues. I doubt vancouver even gets in. The playoffs and final results are Central division owned.

Nice effort this year but the playoffs are mostly a pipe dream now.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

It's over . Not going to catch the 7 point deficit to the wild and blues. I doubt vancouver even gets in. The playoffs and final results are Central division owned.

Nice effort this year but the playoffs are mostly a pipe dream now.

Ignoring 3 games in hand is kinda misleading...its toigh but not 7 point deficit tough

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think most people would accept short term pain for a better draft position this season
But again how do you do that?
Not play Wolf?
You don’t just decide to lose.

Not sure why this keeps coming up. We are losing and Wolf is still playing these games.

The team can’t score and our patchwork defence have held up but the lack of talent will eventually catch up. It’s catching up already.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It will just be another face plant.

Team is missing a lot of pieces. You can see how the 2 guys hide the decencies in Edmonton. Just 1 playing tonight and he ended the game.

Might have something to do with the fact that the Flames game plan is to win by 1 goal and as soon as you are up you let the other team have the puck and stand in front of your net hoping nothing bad happens.

We can make fun of the Oilers hiring McDavid's junior coach, but they pressure the puck all over the ice and battle to get it and give it to their best players to score.

Flames get a lead and play like they are afraid to touch the puck.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Sure, adding a gambreaker sounds like a good addition. How much and for how long? He isn't a premium position. You already have Huberdeau at 10.5. Marner turns 28 in May - do you want to sign him through his 35 year old season?


It is repeating the same mistakes as the last rebuild - going out and making deals thinking you are better than you really are. Flames didn't come close to competing for the cup in the last rebuild. You add a guy like Marner when you are ready to compete. Adding Marner now just makes them another bubble team.



I guess if you feel that the Flames are a better team right now than I do, and you feel they are ready to compete, then I guess we will agree to disagree.

Well you add a guy that can score and we win the last 2 games and most likely make the playoffs.

Or we plug along with what we have on the farm filling spots. Barely getting to the salary floor.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

With league average goaltending we are right there with the Blackhawks and Sharks.

That's well established. You're not saying anything new. But so what if they have great goaltending? If the Blackhawks and Sharks had good goaltending, they would be a lot higher than they are. If the Jets had bad goaltending, they would be mid.

Goaltending is part of the team.

Doesn't make sense to have to apologize for it.

Every team has strengths and weaknesses. If Oilers didn't have Draisaitl, they wouldn't have won today. But they do and he was the difference.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

What is a first line forward. You need 3 of them. Is that a guy who is top 75 in the NHL forwards for scoring? What is the definition?

Take any Flames forward and put them on one of the playoff teams. None of them would be playing on line 1.

Kadri is an ideal 2nd line center though. But not a 1st.

[SemicolonD]

I would’ve taken 1-1-1 coming out of this mini 3 game gauntlet but the refs screwing us from the win against the Stars might’ve ended the season. Avs are probably the easiest one to circle as a loss so it’s gna be tough to accomplish 1-1-1 now. If they do squeak by the Avs then I don’t think it’s totally over. You win the game against the Wild and the Wild would need to go 4-2-1 to get in if the Flames got 96 points by going 6-2 against everyone else. Our only truly hard matchups in those remaining games would be 2 games against Vegas and maybe LA if the last game of the season matters to them.


It’s doom and gloom but did we think we’d go 3-0 against the Stars, Oilers, and Avs? 1-1-1 is really solid against those 3 if it happens. I think the only time you can truly put a nail in it is if we lose against the Wild.

And face it, there’s 0 shot they start tanking now so don’t even bother hoping for that scenario. Even if they call everyone up from the wranglers to play they’ll still beat the sharks etc so there’s 0 chance we tank now.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

That's well established. You're not saying anything new. But so what if they have great goaltending? If the Blackhawks and Sharks had good goaltending, they would be a lot higher than they are. If the Jets had bad goaltending, they would be mid.

Goaltending is part of the team.

Doesn't make sense to have to apologize for it.

Flames with Vladar beat the Sharks/Hawks most of the time. I question if some of you have actually watched the bottom 3 teams.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

I wonder how Marner would even look here. Who's he playing with?

Am34 and mattew nies. No way we land him unless we pay him 15 +

[EDMONTONisNG]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Their Your #1C is Draisaitl. The other one is just a glorified winger.

Its all semantics. When a team is missing their best players, they are weaker. What part of that doesn't make sense to you.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Not sure why this keeps coming up. We are losing and Wolf is still playing these games.

The team can’t score and our patchwork defence have held up but the lack of talent will eventually catch up. It’s catching up already.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they were worse next season
But I’m speaking to those that seem to think the Flames could have done something this season to proactively move down the standings