[PGT] Oilers 3 Flames 2 in OT

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The season is not done at all. My God a lot of this fan base is so fragile. I wish there was a way where if the Flames make the playoffs the posters claiming the season is done can't watch. The whole year it's been the season is done, we are not making the playoffs before the puck even dropped for game 1. Wtf ever happened to cheering for your team to succeed? There sure seems like a lot of posters Cheer more for failure than success.

That's a false dichotomy.

To me, if there were a binary, it'd be closer to:

Cheering for long term success and accepting short term failure
versus
cheering for short term success and accepting long term failure

Of course there are countless other permutations of results based on getting absurdly lucky, but this is the real argument.

It's been nice to watch Wolf have a great rookie season, and it's been nice to see Parekh dominate junior hockey. But this team's hole in terms of a number one center has existed for... my... entire.... lifetime. I'm just numb to the insanity of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The season is not done at all. My God a lot of this fan base is so fragile. I wish there was a way where if the Flames make the playoffs the posters claiming the season is done can't watch. The whole year it's been the season is done, we are not making the playoffs before the puck even dropped for game 1. Wtf ever happened to cheering for your team to succeed? There sure seems like a lot of posters Cheer more for failure than success.

Dunno about that. Flames are playing (generously) at .600 so with 10 games left that's all of 12 points...gets them to 92. At best.


STL and MIN both have 87 points and 7 and 8 GR respectively. They'd both have to play below .500 to get us in... if we can maintain .600. If we can't...toast. VAN ain't much better than us, so likely a non-factor.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Har-Calgary

Leon just killed us all by himself, rest of the team was trash but didn’t matter he just put them on their back. Kadri’s been trying his best to be that guy for us but today was a reminder of how no one on this squad is even close to being that guy.

Kadri needs some help. None is coming from the farm.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

That's a false dichotomy.

To me, if there were a binary, it'd be closer to:

Cheering for long term success and accepting short term failure
versus
cheering for short term success and accepting long term failure

Of course there are countless other permutations of results based on getting absurdly lucky, but this is the real argument.

It's been nice to watch wolf have a great rookie season, and it's been nice to see Parekh dominate junior hockey. But this team's hole in terms of a number one center has existed for... my... entire.... lifetime. I'm just numb to the insanity of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

This. 100 times this.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by EDMONTONisNG

Should have been an easy win for the flames without oilers #1C and #1D. They don't have their "#1 goalie" either but he sucks anyways.



Hope the season doesn't come down to 1point.

Man you ain’t fooling anyone
What a pathetic way to spend one’s time

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Marner is a fine player if we were 1 winger away. We are an entire 1st line and a 1st line dman away from being a contender.

By the time we are competitive, Marner will be nearing retirement.

The dream, a 10 year burn it down rebuild that would take us to near Marner’s retirement.

[browna]

Season isn't over yet at all, but tonight's lost point, given having a lead with 6 mins to go, has to be finished out. They now really need at a minimum 1 point vs Colorado.

For the first time, after tonight, in a long time, they no longer hold their own destiny in their hands for the playoffs and need some help to get in. Not much help, but still help. They would need more help if they can't get any points Monday.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

They have won squat with less than stellar goaltending every single year.

If you don't think Marner, a game breaker player, wouldn't be a great addition, I don't know what to tell you.

He will never sign in CGY, so I'm not thinking about it. But i think you'd be crazy to not make the phone call if he hits free agency.

Sure, adding a gambreaker sounds like a good addition. How much and for how long? He isn't a premium position. You already have Huberdeau at 10.5. Marner turns 28 in May - do you want to sign him through his 35 year old season?


It is repeating the same mistakes as the last rebuild - going out and making deals thinking you are better than you really are. Flames didn't come close to competing for the cup in the last rebuild. You add a guy like Marner when you are ready to compete. Adding Marner now just makes them another bubble team.



I guess if you feel that the Flames are a better team right now than I do, and you feel they are ready to compete, then I guess we will agree to disagree.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Coronato is the only actual young skater on the team right now.
Don’t know if that’s the optimal set up for being a perennial contender with many high end chances for a cup.

That’s why retools don’t work especially when you have zero elite talent outside of the goalie. Who are they retooling around ?

Someone mentioned Conory believes the team will be competing in 2 years lol. They are ready to trade 1st round picks for the right player.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by FlamesDraftPrognosticator

Agreed not only a terrible shot but on the back check he took the lazy path instead of hustling back. Brutal

He fell down after his goofy flip shot. That cued the end of the game.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Your optimism is admirable. But misplaced. You can be as optimistic as you want but the team is all but statically eliminated.

Teams can go on heaters. It happens all the time. They don't even need to run the table to make it. So it's not as unrealistic as you think.

Is it likely? Of course not. Everyone knows that.

But I don't get the throwing in of the towel at this point by this fan base.

[Manhattanboy]

I’m just glad I put Michaels on mute as soon as they came up the ice.

Been sitting in silence since.

Been a very hard 2 games.

I get way too invested. I shouldn’t because the anger is not good for my health.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

You have to turn it off after the final whistle and switch to radio or Youtube, otherwise you are doing it wrong. Long term exposure to SN panelists causes brain cancer.

I turned it off right when I heard Ron McLean’s voice

[Burning Beard]

If you swap Parekh in for Bean next season and he figures out the NHL then I think the offense opens up a bunch from a puck moving Dman.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

That's a false dichotomy.

To me, if there were a binary, it'd be closer to:

Cheering for long term success and accepting short term failure
versus
cheering for short term success and accepting long term failure

Of course there are countless other permutations of results based on getting absurdly lucky, but this is the real argument.

It's been nice to watch Wolf have a great rookie season, and it's been nice to see Parekh dominate junior hockey. But this team's hole in terms of a number one center has existed for... my... entire.... lifetime. I'm just numb to the insanity of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I think most people would accept short term pain for a better draft position this season
But again how do you do that?
Not play Wolf?
You don’t just decide to lose.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That’s why retools don’t work especially when you have zero elite talent outside of the goalie. Who are they retooling around ?

Someone mentioned Conory believes the team will be competing in 2 years lol. They are ready to trade 1st round picks for the right player.

We have zero talent outside of our goalie and a few 2nd liners on a good team.

We do not have any 1st line forwards. Realistically, we are 5 years out minimum from contending. With the perfect drafting and signings.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

If you swap Parekh in for Bean next season and he figures out the NHL then I think the offense opens up a bunch from a puck moving Dman.

Better OT record even goes a long way

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The season is not done at all. My God a lot of this fan base is so fragile. I wish there was a way where if the Flames make the playoffs the posters claiming the season is done can't watch. The whole year it's been the season is done, we are not making the playoffs before the puck even dropped for game 1. Wtf ever happened to cheering for your team to succeed? There sure seems like a lot of posters Cheer more for failure than success.

"Frustrated that the Flames' chances of making the playoffs are almost completely gone, because they just lost a game where they had a late 3rd period lead and would have won if they had shut down one player = cheering for the team to lose and fail" is a rather delusional and unserious take.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I’m just glad I put Michaels on mute as soon as they came up the ice.

Been sitting in silence since.

Been a very hard 2 games.

I get way too invested. I shouldn’t because the anger is not good for my health.

I watched the entire game on mute (with the exception of the delay bc I didn't know what was happening). My usual approach on a Coiler game regardless of PbP personnel.

[FireGilbert]

Brutal loss. Was a great road game until they took the foot off the gas late. Would have been nice to at least win the season series for the first time in years with or without the playoffs.

Appropriate it ended 3 on 3 given that is the only difference between the Flames and Oilers this year.