What would you tell your kids to do for a living?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I believe research has shown that a child's work ethic in later life generally patterns after his/her parents.

My kid is on track to make a fantastic CP poster then.

[flamesfever]

Kids are all so different. While some struggle in school to get decent grades, others do very little to succeed. I think research has shown that a child's upbringing and parental support play a crucial role in their ability to find a good job.

Even though some kids are not lucky enough to have a happy, stable home life, it's amazing what they can overcome to be successful. One book I remember reading ages ago, written by a psychologist, described a person who as a child was taken away from his mother, as she was deemed mentally incompetent to look after him. He went from foster home to foster home, and at the age of 16 got in trouble with the law and ended up in a detention home. While there he suffered a stroke and was released and put to work in a box factory. Several years later he was president of the company and fabulously successful. He had showed up at the psychologist's office for some minor problem.

[edslunch]

My brother wanted to go into the trades and I wanted to be a recording engineer, but our parents steered us both into engineering. We’ve both had good careers but he bitterly regrets it. I on the other hand am happy that I chose the direction that actually pays, while being able to pursue the other as a hobby.

[Nancy]

If they didn't do career counselling sessions in high school, a good place to start is here:

https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/career-planning

https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/career-planning/quizzes

[Locke]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I believe research has shown that a child's work ethic in later life generally patterns after his/her parents.

Oh....they're so screwed...

If you thought it was bad before...

[chummer]

Show me a loser by showing his kid.

[Geraldsh]

Most of the careers touted here are fine for extroverts. Introverts, on the other hand, will be more comfortable in trades where they can work alone or on smaller teams.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Follow your bliss works when there's a lucrative direction to take that thing. If you're lucky enough to have a path there, then that's great. When there isn't, you want to look at what would address your personal values that also has real world demand.

I think the obvious thing is don't go for something where you'll end up just living for the weekends.

If work entails dissociating while just doing the bare x and o's with no spirit or personal investment in it then you'll end up a remorseful husk, even if you do ok financially. And yeah, there will always be tedious things we have to endure. But if there's a purpose behind it that feels worthwhile to you, then you become ok with enduring them. There will be some suffering no matter what, so you want that suffering to have meaning.

I agree with the sentiment that it's good to do something that gives you something back. Even if that's not addressing your passion, maybe it's just satisfying another thing you like, such as a problem solved or things organized, or connecting with clients.

[you&me]

There's a #### load of bliss to be derived from a lucrative career though

I've had similar conversations with other parents in our peer group and when it comes to future-proofing career paths, if I had to distill everyone's opinion down to one thing, it would be to follow something that is generally relationship-based.

The theory is that as AI takes a bigger and bigger role in people lives, there will be a missing component of human interaction that leaves people wanting. So maybe your child uses AI to conduct 80% of their tasks, but it's that remaining 20% that can be conducted on a personal level that will keep careers viable going forward.

Teachers can have individualized lesson plans catered to each student, but the student still responds better to teacher-pupil interaction.

Doctors can use AI tools to help with diagnosis and screen for conflicts in treatment options, but sick people will still want the warmth of another person to present the information.

Lawyers will have AI draft agreements, but will still need to negotiate finer points directly in difficult deals.

Salespeople can use AI to identify the best solution for their customers, but the customer will still want to be taken to the strippers entertained - before making a purchasing decision

I'm basically in sales, so this all sounds reaonable to me, but who knows what the future will bring.

And yes, obviously this is less applicable to the introverts and I'm not sure what the answer is there.

[Dion]

Become a politician. Serve 6 years and get a gold plated pension.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Cheese

I'm with Troutman, follow their bliss.

Oldest son is a great chef and part owner of restaurant on Van Isle and also a great musician.
Oldest daughter is a teacher.
Youngest daughter is a Graphic artist and travels the world and works from wherever she wants.
Youngest son builds sun rooms in cottage country and loves building things!

They are all apparently very happy which makes me feel the same!

There's something inside you that knows when you're in the center, that knows when you're on the beam or off the beam. And if you get off the beam to earn money, you've lost your life. And if you stay in the center and don't get any money, you still have your bliss. - Joseph Campbell

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by troutman

There's something inside you that knows when you're in the center, that knows when you're on the beam or off the beam. And if you get off the beam to earn money, you've lost your life. And if you stay in the center and don't get any money, you still have your bliss. - Joseph Campbell

Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters. - Ray Parker jr.

[PaperBagger'14]

Edit wrong thread lol

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Robots will replace most trades in the next decade . They already can paint, drywall , do basic framing , etc

Engineering robots maybe ? Programming robots ? Robot supervisor ?

Vet , doctor and teacher are good answers as you will (may) still need real people vs robots to make people and animals feel calm

Bill Gates says that AI will be taking over for Doctors and Teachers in ten years.

https://people.com/bill-gates-ai-wil...years-11705615

[GGG]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Bill Gates says that AI will be taking over for Doctors and Teachers in ten years.

https://people.com/bill-gates-ai-wil...years-11705615

I think teaching will be different. We will definitely still need the babysitting service aspect of it. Even high schoolers aren’t responsible enough to be left alone for weeks on end. That will always require people.

But also there will still be a human way of thinking. Like say math. When you are learning math watching a human brain stumble and pause and think and make mistakes helps people learn. There will also be need for nurses at a minimum until we have robots. But even then the sight of human faces will be valuable. What Doctors and teachers do will change but we will still have the professions.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by GGG

I think teaching will be different. We will definitely still need the babysitting service aspect of it. Even high schoolers aren’t responsible enough to be left alone for weeks on end. That will always require people.

But also there will still be a human way of thinking. Like say math. When you are learning math watching a human brain stumble and pause and think and make mistakes helps people learn. There will also be need for nurses at a minimum until we have robots. But even then the sight of human faces will be valuable. What Doctors and teachers do will change but we will still have the professions.

I think the way certain things are taught will reverse. Instead of teaching accurate completion, we will teach accurate reasoning.

So for instance, instead of learning how to accurately complete equations, they may learn how to accurately identify the correct equation for AI to solve.

Open book exams may become more prevalent and instead of completion, reasoning and speed of the ability to identify the correct equation/prompts will be more important.

Calculators allowed in all exams, but higher emphasis on understanding and identifying BEDMAS correctly... etc.

I'm not trying to be an old man, but I've long felt that "A question well posed is a question half answered is a good mantra for problem solving. Spending a bit more time on confirming the accuracy of the problem is more important than just jumping into potential solutions and wasting too much time on detailing solutions that ultimately don't fit the situation."

[Winsor_Pilates]

Things are changing too fast, many of the careers of the future are concepts we haven't even conjured up yet.
I'm going with a well rounded exposure to many different things, building good work ethic & confidence, and offer lots of support.
The rest will figure itself out in time.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Absolutely, if you ever meet a tiler still doing it into their 50s and 60s they’re the most miserable dudes you’ll ever meet. Just a horrible grind on the body.

AI, robotics and the coming Great Depression has to be a major consideration when it comes to choosing a career path.

I've met miserable:

- lawyers
- engineers (oh, so many miserable 'geers)
- teachers
- doctors
- every IT position ever
- plumbers
- electricians
- pharmacists
- veterinarians
- police officers
- bus drivers
- secretaries
- hvac
- accountants
- directors
- executives
- CEOs

And of course, middle managers. The most miserable of them all.

It has nothing to do with trades and a lot with the people you fortunate or unfortunately have encountered in your life. And just the general stress of life as you get older and you hit more death, divorces, etc.

And coming Great Depression? Man, some of you guys really need to take an economics course before you decide to jump off a cliff.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I've never found any bliss labouring. Great if you can, but not something I'd encourage too much for a couple reasons. Firstly, many people who do that end up hating the thing they once loved when it was a hobby. Two, many of us don't have passions that are marketable.

Yep. When I think of jobs I liked, it’s always because I was working with people who enjoyed one another’s company and found ways to have fun. The work itself never entered into it - it’s work.

Originally Posted by Sliver

The advice people give is often influenced by the affluence of their upbringing, too. If you came from a house with no financial insecurity then it's much easier to recommend people follow their hearts. If you've come home to find your single mom crying in a puddle on the floor because the furnace broke in a cold snap and she can't afford to fix it, you can't help but roll your eyes at following your dreams in favour of just making some fkn money.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that many people who work in creative fields come from fairly privileged backgrounds. It’s a lot easier to follow your bliss and pursue freelance work as a photographer or musician if you’re backstopped by a supportive family than if you need a steady paycheque to pay rent our you’ll be out on the street. And a lot of creative work relies on social networks that more well-off families have greater access to.

[Finger Cookin]

When you wake up in the morning, you should look yourself in the mirror and say, "****. You. **** your hopes, *** your dreams, **** your plans … **** everything you thought this life was going to bring to you. Now let's go out there and try to make this bitch happy.