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Bingo · 03-25-2025, 10:05 PM

Flames 4 Kraken 3 (OT)

- Another come from behind win
- Kadri with two huge goals
- Wolf some key overtime saves
- Flames win 4th straight

Bonded · 03-25-2025, 10:14 PM

Is Frost good defensively on the fancy stats or am I only seeing the good and missing the bad?

Bingo · 03-26-2025, 07:21 AM

He hasn't been great on the defensive side of the puck since he's got here.

Some of that has to do with who he's playing with though. His metrics on the current line with Huberdeau and Coronato have been quite good. Not so much when he was with Sharangovich and Pospisil.

But man the kid does a lot with the puck, sort of surprised that he only has 7 points in 20 Flames games.

SutterBrother · 03-26-2025, 07:23 AM

Kadri is such a killer.

Bingo · 03-26-2025, 07:23 AM

Top 10 Pick:

Flames need to go 2-10-0 (.167)

Playoff spot:

Target 94 points
Flames need to go 7-4-1 (.625)

Flames and St. Louis with similar strength of schedule remaining. (Utah similar as well, Vancouver much more difficult)

SutterBrother · 03-26-2025, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo

Top 10 Pick:

Flames need to go 2-10-0 (.167)

Playoff spot:

Target 94 points
Flames need to go 7-4-1 (.625)

Flames and St. Louis with similar strength of schedule remaining. (Utah similar as well, Vancouver much more difficult)

I wish they sorted standings by points percentage. It's a dead heat with the Blues, but if both teams were to win out, Calgary would make the playoffs ahead of them.

I know that's not happening, but my point would be that Calgary still controls their own fate. They aren't "chasing". They're "fending off".

Roof-Daddy · 03-26-2025, 07:36 AM

The Blues actually have the points in hand, that means a lot more than games in hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo

Top 10 Pick:

Flames need to go 2-10-0 (.167)

Playoff spot:

Target 94 points
Flames need to go 7-4-1 (.625)

Flames and St. Louis with similar strength of schedule remaining. (Utah similar as well, Vancouver much more difficult)

Given the schedule, neither one of those records seem likely to me, and lo and behold it probably puts the Flames outside the playoffs and also giving up the 11th to 15th pick to MTL. Literally the worst case scenario imagined at the start of the season LMAO

Yeah_Baby · 03-26-2025, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The Blues actually have the points in hand, that means a lot more than games in hand.

Given the schedule, either one of those records seem likely to me, and lo and behold it probably puts the Flames outside the playoffs and also giving up the 11th to 15th pic to MTL. Literally the worst case scenario imagined at the start of the season LMAO

It's been a run ride though.

NegativeSpace · 03-26-2025, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The Blues actually have the points in hand, that means a lot more than games in hand.

Given the schedule, neither one of those records seem likely to me, and lo and behold it probably puts the Flames outside the playoffs and also giving up the 11th to 15th pick to MTL. Literally the worst case scenario imagined at the start of the season LMAO

At present rankings, Montreal gets the 16th pick from Calgary and Calgary gets the 18th pick from Nee Jersey. Hardly the calamity anticipated. If the Flames keep winning then Montreal keeps getting a worse pick.

Bingo · 03-26-2025, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The Blues actually have the points in hand, that means a lot more than games in hand.

Given the schedule, neither one of those records seem likely to me, and lo and behold it probably puts the Flames outside the playoffs and also giving up the 11th to 15th pick to MTL. Literally the worst case scenario imagined at the start of the season LMAO

That's a little bleak in my opinion.

The Flames currently have the 19th pick in the draft at today's win percentage, as they currently have a better record than two East playoff teams.

I think if they slide at all they may get to pick 15, but that's probably a floor at this point if you look at records.

Plus Florida has been losing some games of late, and the gap between the two has shrunk to 6 positions again.

If you ...

a) put any value in the push for young players
b) put any value in Nazem Kadri
c) put any value in the gap narrowing between Florida and Calgary

and see that they seem to be avoiding that pick #11 worst case.

I think the applied LMAO may have been overdone.

Five-hole · 03-26-2025, 08:48 AM

Listen to the crowd on Kadri's OT winner last night. Who gives a f*** about a few draft positions? The whole point of this is to play meaningful hockey and get some excitement, and we've got that.

Y'all would trade that for 10ish spots in the draft and being consistently bad this year? I wouldn't.

Roof-Daddy · 03-26-2025, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NegativeSpace

At present rankings, Montreal gets the 16th pick from Calgary and Calgary gets the 18th pick from Nee Jersey. Hardly the calamity anticipated. If the Flames keep winning then Montreal keeps getting a worse pick.

Yes I know that, so hopefully they keep winning.

Schedule is tough though.

Strange Brew · 03-26-2025, 08:59 AM

Seeing Kadri celebrate that OT goal was pretty fun. I have kind of changed my tune on the guy, he has been a big part of this team's offensive production (which has been hard to come by).

Odds are against making the playoffs simply because it seems we have 3 teams fighting for one spot. But the Wild losing some games may have opened the door some. If either them or the Blues have an extended losing streak, no guarantee they get to say 93 points.

Roof-Daddy · 03-26-2025, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo

That's a little bleak in my opinion.

The Flames currently have the 19th pick in the draft at today's win percentage, as they currently have a better record than two East playoff teams.

I think if they slide at all they may get to pick 15, but that's probably a floor at this point if you look at records.

Plus Florida has been losing some games of late, and the gap between the two has shrunk to 6 positions again.

If you ...

a) put any value in the push for young players
b) put any value in Nazem Kadri
c) put any value in the gap narrowing between Florida and Calgary

and see that they seem to be avoiding that pick #11 worst case.

I think the applied LMAO may have been overdone.

Yeah, we'll see how it all shakes out. So far this entire season every time this team got on a bit of a roll like they are now, they would not be able to sustain and solidify their position. They'd fall apart and back slide. Hopefully this time is different, because as noted they are very unlikely to fall back into a top 10 slot and keep their pick. Most likely all a backslide will accomplish is a better pick for the Habs and a bigger gap between the Flames pick and the Panthers pick, which as I stated was the dreaded worst case scenario we all joked about at the start of the year.

Wastedyouth · 03-26-2025, 09:06 AM

Pick 19 or pick 25 have very little difference.

Peak pain position seems to be being avoided.

My heart was pounding watching the game last night. How can you not be enjoying this?

Roof-Daddy · 03-26-2025, 09:23 AM

It is possible to discuss potential out comes, even the negative ones, and still enjoy this. Believe me, the wins are thoroughly enjoyed at this point. They are the most likely way to avoid the worst possible ending as a top 10 pick nearly impossible now.

Bonded · 03-26-2025, 09:31 AM

The worst case scenario was still the Habs getting the 2nd overall pick. Didn’t have to think about that one much. It would be be great karma that if the Flames end up outside the playoffs that they win the lottery and move into the top 10.

Bingo · 03-26-2025, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yeah, we'll see how it all shakes out. So far this entire season every time this team got on a bit of a roll like they are now, they would not be able to sustain and solidify their position. They'd fall apart and back slide. Hopefully this time is different, because as noted they are very unlikely to fall back into a top 10 slot and keep their pick. Most likely all a backslide will accomplish is a better pick for the Habs and a bigger gap between the Flames pick and the Panthers pick, which as I stated was the dreaded worst case scenario we all joked about at the start of the year.

I don't view missing the playoffs as the worst case scenario.

Pick #11 is worst case, especially if they went for it and never had a chance.

They did have a chance, and do have a chance.

And team #11 is only two games over .500 to the Flames nine.

With 79 points already banked the Flames would have to be the following to slide into these draft positions

11 .219
12 .271
13 .317
14 .320

Worst case scenario is long gone in my mind.

Inferno · 03-26-2025, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonded

It would be be great karma that if the Flames end up outside the playoffs that they win the lottery and move into the top 10.

The standings are a couple of weeks old but it shows it is possible.

Roof-Daddy · 03-26-2025, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo

I don't view missing the playoffs as the worst case scenario.

Pick #11 is worst case, especially if they went for it and never had a chance.

They did have a chance, and do have a chance.

And team #11 is only two games over .500 to the Flames nine.

With 79 points already banked the Flames would have to be the following to slide into these draft positions

11 .219
12 .271
13 .317
14 .320

Worst case scenario is long gone in my mind.

Good, because I don't want worst case scenario to happen, in relation to the squandered 1st.

I don't even want CLOSE to worst case scenario to happen.

Even giving up 16th overall while keeping 26th overall and not getting any playoff games would be a gross out come.