Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Azure]

lol. At this points is basically lets do the opposite of Trudeau and hope people don't notice its what the Conservatives want to do as well plan.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1903139000006668567

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1903130467617923499

[Looch City]

Omg now Carney is plagiarising removing capital tax change as well?

Could this guy actually be a...social conservative??

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol. At this points is basically lets do the opposite of Trudeau and hope people don't notice its what the Conservatives want to do as well plan.

You seriously think the Liberals being perceived as somewhat similar to the Conservatives on some policy matters but without the baggage of right wing insanity is somehow going to hurt them politically? That's how they've achieved their greatest electoral success. It'll really just come down to whether people believe them or not.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol. At this points is basically lets do the opposite of Trudeau and hope people don't notice its what the Conservatives want to do as well plan.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1903139000006668567

Maybe the CPC should use a similar strategy and start pointing out some of the areas where they’ve moderated their views?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol. At this points is basically lets do the opposite of Trudeau and hope people don't notice its what the Conservatives want to do as well plan.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1903139000006668567

Or perhaps Canadians want a shift in government but not the social conservatism and MAGA overtures. Trudeau the person was a large portion of the issue here.

Which option is worse. That Carney is lying and is another Trudeau or PP is lying and he’s another Smith.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Azure

Not that it will stop Johnny from posting more false information, but maybe we should ask Ford about this?

"Didn't ask me for help and I don't know where they even came up with that story."
But hey, lets not let a little misinformation get in the way of the greater good!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1903100698444579241

Hey it was CTV who stated a Toronto Star source that said it.

But you like misinformation boot licker! lol

[Harry Lime]

Everything that has been happening, reminds me of that old saying... the one that we hear over and over again, everywhere...

There is an old saying that a lie is halfway around the world before the truth can put on their pants.

It's exactly like that. The old saying that everyone has heard of.

[Sylvanfan]

Over time the political parties do change. If the Conservstives are going further right and the NDP/Block/ Greens are further left. There's lots of room to move right between that.

I also get the impression that a few more Canadians might see this as a two party race and be inclined to pick one of the Conservatives or Liberals. At least a lot of the recent polling seems to show that the Liberals are getting support away from everyone to make this comeback.

I saw some interview with Ezra Levant on some MAGA themed outlet...good god am I dumber for having indulged that for 5 minutes. Just bowing down to the emperor.

[getbak]

Isn't Carney basically following the Klein playbook from the early 90s?

Oh, you didn't like the previous guy and his policies? Okay, we'll get rid of them.

Oh, you like the things the other guy is promising but don't want to vote for his party? Okay, we'll promise to do all of those things, but we'll do them calling ourselves the party you want to vote for.

When Klein became the PC leader, they looked like they were dead in the water as Albertans were sick of them after the Getty years. Six months later, they won another healthy majority.

[Monahammer]

Lol Damn Carney for doing the thing ~80% of canadians want and running a social center left/economic social right campaign. What a devious plot!

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol. At this points is basically lets do the opposite of Trudeau and hope people don't notice its what the Conservatives want to do as well plan.

Mark Carney showing fantastic leadership and planning by implementing these things. Watching Cons try and claim "it was our idea" is super cute, since how can it be your idea if you never did it? CPC should be paying attention for when they go to elect their next leader, this is what an effective leader looks like.

[2ArmBands]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol. At this points is basically lets do the opposite of Trudeau and hope people don't notice its what the Conservatives want to do as well plan.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1903139000006668567

It actually makes everyday entertaining and quite funny. But honestly, if Mark Carney wants to move the Liberals more to the right its still better for all of us. This is not a bad thing at all.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol. At this points is basically lets do the opposite of Trudeau and hope people don't notice its what the Conservatives want to do as well plan.

Looks like someone's just angry he spent all that time taking down his "FUCΚ TRUDEAU" banner on the shed to put "CARNEY" in duct tape letters, and now Carney is doing everything he wanted out of the CPC.

Losing one's identity is hard.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Mark Carney showing fantastic leadership and planning by implementing these things. Watching Cons try and claim "it was our idea" is super cute, since how can it be your idea if you never did it? CPC should be paying attention for when they go to elect their next leader, this is what an effective leader looks like.

I'm intrigued to know how the CPC could do anything over the last ten years? Liberals weren't going to vote for any CPC motion especially not for significant things that they support (or supported up until a couple months ago) like carbon tax and increases to capital gains taxation.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Looks like someone's just angry he spent all that time taking down his "FUCΚ TRUDEAU" banner on the shed to put "CARNEY" in duct tape letters, and now Carney is doing everything he wanted out of the CPC.

Losing one's identity is hard.

It’s just so funny to watch. Like some of the stuff up in the air or changing in the moment I disagree with because I supported more what it was than what it changed to, but I can acknowledge that and still think Carney is miles ahead of PP in every single way.

But you’ve got people who are watching Carney not just say, but even do the exact thing they wanted, and their response?
- PP did it first!
- Is that the OPPOSITE of what Trudeau, who you advised! DID?
- He’s just fooling people into voting for him by doing things they support!

These people don’t know how to be anything but conservative. They don’t even know what policies they support or even care. Just… whatever the guy they like is doing, so long as he’s the one doing it.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm intrigued to know how the CPC could do anything over the last ten years? Liberals weren't going to vote for any CPC motion especially not for significant things that they support (or supported up until a couple months ago) like carbon tax and increases to capital gains taxation.

Why do Cons always try and make excuses for their inability to govern? Ineffective leaders, with no real plans or abilities to accomplish anything. Empty words from empty suits. Hopefully they just keep watching Mark Carney work, maybe they'll finally figure out the kind of people they should be looking to lead their party.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by opendoor

You seriously think the Liberals being perceived as somewhat similar to the Conservatives on some policy matters but without the baggage of right wing insanity is somehow going to hurt them politically? That's how they've achieved their greatest electoral success. It'll really just come down to whether people believe them or not.

Selling the nation what most of it really wants is wise. Don't know why the righties here are chuckling, unless that's nervous laughter.

Maybe if he was actually walking in Trudeau's footsteps and making no real changes of note.

When's the last time PP did something to actually help his case with the centrist canadian public?

Even after everything, he's still quietly sheltering the maple-maga crowd.

[PepsiFree]

PP didn’t even bother getting his security clearance, made a mockery of the house and insulted everyone whenever he had a bill he was “trying” to get people to vote for, and his supporters actually think the CPC did “all they could” to get anything done?

LOL

Weird how the NDP got more done than they did, isn’t it?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm intrigued to know how the CPC could do anything over the last ten years? Liberals weren't going to vote for any CPC motion especially not for significant things that they support (or supported up until a couple months ago) like carbon tax and increases to capital gains taxation.

That's what happens when you select a deplorable "attack" yappy dog. lol

He only knows one thing. attack the libs!