[GT] SPD Special Flames @ Leafs

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Doesn’t get easier tomorrow.

At least no Trouba?

Rangers are way worse than the Leafs

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by browna

- Season isn't over.
- All players had every opportunity to voice their desire to leave and they didn't for a year and a half.
- They committed to the Flames so the Flames committed to them.
- Any returns for various hypothetical players are complete speculation because none of the situations got anywhere near consummation.

That's how you build a proper organizational culture of trust and how agents and players on other teams notice that and remember that in the future when considering the Flames as a destination.

Feaster and Treliving tried to do this too. Didn't work at all. Problem is that players have very very short memories, if any at all.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan

In fairness to Conroy, the team way looking pretty good heading into Dallas and the TDL to be in a position to make the playoffs. Selling off your vets at that point might send a bad message to the young guys and the players that actually want to be here. Hindsight is 20/20 and yeah, it might look like a bad call now, but I can't say I blame Conroy - especially when ownership mandate is to make playoff revenue.

I think the counterpoint is that the plan should be the plan regardless.

Flames are an easy out for any team that faces them in the playoffs. So why change the plan for that when that top ten pick could land tou a bonafide difference maker?

[dino7c]

Flames had no significant UFAs they didn't miss anything...there will be more trade options in the summer not less

[OminousFlames]

Originally Posted by SmoggyFlamesFan

In fairness to Conroy, the team way looking pretty good heading into Dallas and the TDL to be in a position to make the playoffs. Selling off your vets at that point might send a bad message to the young guys and the players that actually want to be here. Hindsight is 20/20 and yeah, it might look like a bad call now, but I can't say I blame Conroy - especially when ownership mandate is to make playoff revenue.

are you kidding me? they didn't deserve to be in the carolina game and especially the florida game.
I never seen a team so bad.

[SmoggyFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by OminousFlames

are you kidding me? they didn't deserve to be in the carolina game and especially the florida game.
I never seen a team so bad.

Yeah those games were pretty trash, you're right.

[SmoggyFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I think the counterpoint is that the plan should be the plan regardless.

Flames are an easy out for any team that faces them in the playoffs. So why change the plan for that when that top ten pick could land tou a bonafide difference maker?

I wouldn't be opposed to that, though the other side of the argument is either we finish 9th, or we draft another Honzek, or Baertschi, or maybe at best, a Bennett. All due respect to Bennett, he way underperformed compared to where he was drafted, at least as a flame. Great in the playoffs, but certainly not elite.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by OminousFlames

This is what the flames are with average goaltending.. It's a joke that this team competes in the same league as the rest. I can't believe people still have hope for the playoffs this year.

With average goaltending, we are drafting top 3. This team is awful. You can't even deny it. Lowest scoring team in the league and no 1st liners.

The Sharks and Blackhawks have more raw talent than us. We don't have a Bedard or Celebrini.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Flames only recieved various legit offers for Kadri nobody else.

I'll add, when I say legit - I mean offers worth accepting.

Of coarse the one guy who absolutely didn't want to move .

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Damn. Seeing how he wants to stay I can understand why Conny didn't do anything at the deadline. Sigh...the stars never align for the Flames when they need to

K8nd of ironic if you think about it, considering he vetoed a move to the Flames earlier when in Toronto...

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Of coarse the one guy who absolutely didn't want to move .

Should have just told him too bad, pick 2 teams you're moving.

Aging asset that we can get futures for? Absolutely should have taken it.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Rangers are way worse than the Leafs

But 100x better than the Flames, on paper.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Should have just told him too bad, pick 2 teams you're moving.

Aging asset that we can get futures for? Absolutely should have taken it.

How do you do that?
He had a full ntc. “Too bad” doesn’t work

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Should have just told him too bad, pick 2 teams you're moving.

Aging asset that we can get futures for? Absolutely should have taken it.

How do you do that?

He has a full NMC so if he says no then he's not going, and you're just stuck paying $7M to a guy you pissed off for no reason.

Not shopping Andersson is the mistake (going back to last draft IMO), but if in the end Kadri refused to waive his NMC then there isn't much you can do.

Now my worry is he might have waived to go to Colorado but the team didn't even approach him about it, but Royle and Dissentowner have said that's not the case and he wouldn't have went to Colorado anyways.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Should have just told him too bad, pick 2 teams you're moving.

Aging asset that we can get futures for? Absolutely should have taken it.

Ya , you can't do that with a no trade clause..