Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[speede5]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

Agee 100%. I also don’t understand why Canada can’t develop a strike fighter jet. Sweden can develop a car that’s fairly popular and also fighter jet.

Our biggest aircraft manufacturer almost went belly up just designing a new airliner. It is a great product and they had to bail out to survive. There is no one in Canada with the capability to attempt a fresh design 5th Gen fighter, it’s just not feasible.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by speede5

Our biggest aircraft manufacturer almost went belly up just designing a new airliner. It is a great product and they had to bail out to survive. There is no one in Canada with the capability to attempt a fresh design 5th Gen fighter, it’s just not feasible.

It’s totally feasible, other countries do it all the time. Trump is a sociopath and finally Canada realizes that we can’t count on them anymore. That’s going to kick off a lot of new innovations in my opinion.

[afc wimbledon]

Canada could develop a 5th gen fighter but it would take decades and be a total waste of money, what we should be doing is throwing in with the EU and Sweden to be part of a consortium, we also don't need a 5th gen fighter, if Ukraine has taught us anything its we what we need is a pretty large force of 4th gen's

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

It’s totally feasible, other countries do it all the time. Trump is a sociopath and finally Canada realizes that we can’t count on them anymore. That’s going to kick off a lot of new innovations in my opinion.

No not really do it all the time. Heck even the us is still struggling with the f35 after all this time. Developing a fifth gen fighter on our own for our market just isn’t a feasible answer.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

No not really do it all the time. Heck even the us is still struggling with the f35 after all this time. Developing a fifth gen fighter on our own for our market just isn’t a feasible answer.

Not with that attitude.

[Mr.Coffee]

Day one or three for Carney- he should just say “we are going to sell our resources elsewhere”

And then fly to Europe multiple times. And not meet with the Americans.


That’s it.

It’ll solve the problem.

[Jacks]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fut...deau-1.7483254

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government has stacked agencies and Crown corporations with dozens of future appointments and early appointment renewals, many of which would only go into effect weeks and months after the next election.A CBC News analysis of order-in-council appointments made since Jan. 6, when Trudeau announced he would step down as prime minister, found 88 future appointments — some scheduled to go into effect as late as November.

While a handful of the future appointments are only scheduled to last a few months, most would last years — with two set to last seven years. Most have been appointed "on good behaviour," which means a future government would have to prove that they were guilty of bad behaviour in order to remove them before the expiry date of their appointment.While some of those benefiting from the future appointments have ties to the Liberal Party, many others do not.

Every single vacant Senate seat has also been filled.

Just a piece of trash up until the last moment.

[Mr.Coffee]

He’s just such a piece of ####. Okay so what does this actually mean though? Such a politically ridiculous move. Is this normal? Does it happen every time? So a new government can’t fill positions for people that support an agenda that people vote for? You can’t fire / change out these folks?

And to do this at this point in our country’s history?

If Canada gets annexed- you truly can blame this guy as a huge main factor, regardless of what all the partisans on this site say / think. We wouldn’t be in this vulnerable position without Trudeau. Such an inflexible person.

I’m actually kind of blown away that people are STILL saying the things they are on this website in the face of our country literally about to be torn apart. Just shows how partisan people are. Honestly if Canada goes Liberal and the Liberals go all climate changey- Alberta literally will separate. It’s straight up that stupid at this point and no point in staying in Canada. Just stupidity now. I actually can’t believe Quebec is still saying no pipeline still. Holy ####. lol. Best of luck with USA indigenous and Quebec!

[Jacks]

Well I wouldn't go as far as that but it's pretty scummy for Trudeau to stack every possible appointment when he clearly didn't couldn't survive a confidence vote and he had already announced his resignation. Worse than his dirt bag father and that's a high bar to get over.

[Mr.Coffee]

Doing that pre election?

I mean I’m actually first trying to understand what it means I suppose. Seems very greasy. Could you imagine if the conservatives did that? lol

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Doing that pre election?

I mean I’m actually first trying to understand what it means I suppose. Seems very greasy. Could you imagine if the conservatives did that? lol

Well, how did you feel when the Conservatives did that?


https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...s-pm-1.3339782

[Azure]

lol, the good ol' whataboutism.

The Conservatives doing it is just as ridiculous.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Well, how did you feel when the Conservatives did that?


https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...s-pm-1.3339782

You’ll never guess who the very first poster to come to Harper’s defence over this was at the time.

I’ll give you a hint: name starts with J… rhymes with Sacks.

The government appoints craploads of people every year, 49 people seems like a pretty low number overall and is probably just business as usual. Some of these were made a year ago according to the article. Besides, if the Libs don't like the appointments they can simply appoint someone else. It's not like these are lifetime senate appointments or something.

Strangely absent: no suggestions Harper was “scummy,” a “dirt bag,” or a “piece of trash.”

LOL

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Well, how did you feel when the Conservatives did that?


https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...s-pm-1.3339782

This sums it up pretty well at the end of the article. It doesn't matter what "our" guy did previously but we are pissed when the "other" guy does it.

Assaly says he's "not worried about what skeletons the Liberals have in their closet.

"I think that young people and the people who recently voted in this last election aren't concerned about what happened a few decades ago," he says.

[calgarygeologist]

Carney's cabinet decisions are not sitting well with some groups in Canada.

Disability Without Poverty’s national director, Rabia Khedr, said the cabinet decisions send “a clear signal that accessibility and the inclusion of people with disabilities are not a high priority.”

Abortion Care Canada and the Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario also issued statements expressing concern about the government’s commitment to equality.


“The removal of these roles sends a strong message about the federal commitment to supporting women, trans and non-binary people, and the government’s dedication to building communities which support the diversity of people in Canada,” Abortion Care Canada said in an emailed statement.

“To not have these ministers engaging in key strategic decisions, policy development, and serving as advisers to the prime minister is an alarming development, with potentially devastating impacts on our communities.”

The elementary teachers group called the removal of the positions “deeply troubling.”

“This is a time where a renewal of support is needed as the most vulnerable and oppressed groups in our society are living in fear due to the political uncertainty surrounding them. With the levels of discrimination and restriction of equality rights in the United States and globally, Canada must support and promote the rights of women and all equality seeking groups,” it said in an emailed statement.

Khedr of Disability Without Poverty said people with disabilities are being “sidelined, due to the political crisis created by the U.S.A. and the imminent election.”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/arti...net-positions/

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Those comments probably help electorally, if anything.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Carney's cabinet decisions are not sitting well with some groups in Canada.


https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/arti...net-positions/

This good news to you, right?
He's prioritizing the economy and US relations; not every sub set left leaning social organization out there.
Not exactly "Just like Justin"; is it?

[Azure]

Smaller government = better if you actually believe in being fiscally responsible.

Has to start with the size of the cabinet as they give direction in the government.
So yes its a good sign. But the clown shuffle is an issue. I guess we'll wait for the election and hopefully some of those idiots get voted out.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

This good news to you, right?
He's prioritizing the economy and US relations; not every sub set left leaning social organization out there.
Not exactly "Just like Justin"; is it?

Yeah, we need smaller government and more focus on all encompassing issues and less focus on pet projects. But I'm not a traditional liberal voter and the Liberal government over the last ten years has been making huge inroads with the sub sets to win their votes. Is Carney throwing away all the goodwill established by Trudeau? Will the sub sets come out to support and vote for Carney? Unions seem to be pretty upset as well because Carney has eliminated the Minister of Labour which is an odd move. They are calling him a leader for big business and not the workers by dumping that Ministry.

[surferguy]

Where are those votes going to flee to? The NDP maybe but they are definitely not headed to PP. I don’t think the Liberals are that worried about losing them.