[PGT] Avs 4 vs. Av-nots 2

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

TBH I blame the lineup decisions.

You're not going to win when you're dressing all of Hunt, Rooney, Lomberg, Klapka, Miromanov, and Hanley.

Team really missed Backlund, Zary, and Pachal IMO.

You lost two skilled forwards and replaced them with grinders instead of Kerins (and his 4 points in 5 NHL games) and scratched one of your most steady guys.

I think they lose even with better line up decisions, but at least they'd be giving themselves a better shot with more appropriate slotting.

Miro in for Pachal against this opponent made no sense whatsoever. Huska chooses an Avs game to experiment?

I don't care what the advanced stats said, Kerins looked like an NHL producer, and I'll gladly be wrong about him being cut out for the NHL if they gave him a 15 game try out, but I'd bet he produces enough to warrant staying full time.

I didn't mind Klapka at all. He's a good 13th forward to have, and I don't mind him in a third line role.

[Rhett44]

So, what exactly was the point of not trading Anderssen, Kadri and Coleman?

To give us a chance at a Stanley Cup push? With this roster?

[Caged Great]

On the flip side the flames are only three points up on the 10th overall pick

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

So, what exactly was the point of not trading Anderssen, Kadri and Coleman?

To give us a chance at a Stanley Cup push? With this roster?

How would they have traded Kadri if he didn’t want to go?

[Manhattanboy]

Two goals by Parker Kelly to give him 7 on the year.

Hands up if you’ve heard of Parker Kelly.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

TBH I blame the lineup decisions.

You're not going to win when you're dressing all of Hunt, Rooney, Lomberg, Klapka, Miromanov, and Hanley.

Team really missed Backlund, Zary, and Pachal IMO.

You lost two skilled forwards and replaced them with grinders instead of Kerins (and his 4 points in 5 NHL games) and scratched one of your most steady guys.

Hunt had a breakaway chance and a couple of hits, but also was late out to Lindgren on his seeing eye screen shot goal.

Rooney is...what it is at this point. He's at least a decent penalty killer. Been doing a pretty good job of that lately.

Lomberg had some time with two skill guys and the puck just died on his stick every time. Didn't even bring the energy or fire tonight.

Klapka has a glimpse now an then, but is always skating at least a step or two behind, and is thinking the game 2-3 steps behind, especially defensively.

Really growing to dislike Miromanov. The first Parker goal happens because he pretends he is a forward and is down below the offensive zone faceoff dot, forcing Huberdeau to cover his position. Not only does he not get back in time to help Huberdeau, but Jake Bean was doing...whatever the #### he was doing. When Huberdeau is the last man back covering defensively, you have to openly question just what the #### the decision making was for the two defensemen leading up to that unfortunate bounce.

Hanley is a gamer. He's not highly skilled but he plays a smart game and contributes positive minutes throughout. He made one bad play to go for the big hit and then was out of position on Parker's 2nd goal. Not someone you typically see out of position.

Let's be honest, the way Backlund, Zary, and Pachal have played of late, it's not like most of those players were a significant downgrade in replacing them. It's a team full of 3rd and 4th liners or AHL tweeners, with a few 2nd line players. Swapping out a 3rd or 4th liner for a 4th liner or tweener isn't a big difference.

Still, they have to find ways to score if they're serious about making the playoffs. There's no way the make it scoring 2 goals a game.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Two goals by Parker Kelly to give him 7 on the year.

Hands up if you’ve heard of Parker Kelly.

Nope, but the very today thing of having a surname first name with a first name last name is tres silly.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Two goals by Parker Kelly to give him 7 on the year.

Hands up if you’ve heard of Parker Kelly.

Even Parker Kelly’s mom had to think about that one for a minute.

[Goriders]

I ####ing crave goals

[Manhattanboy]

Flames playoff chances derailed by superstar Parker Kelly.

Or is that starsuper Kelly Parker.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

How would they have traded Kadri if he didn’t want to go?

Royle said he would have gone if he was asked to waive for Colorado, I believe?

Either way, I'd at least ask him to waive.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Royle said he would have gone if he was asked to waive for Colorado, I believe?

Either way, I'd at least ask him to waive.

No he said this

“With that said we knew Kadri didnt want to go anywhere and we were told by Craig that he wasn't trading him. What "could" have been will have to remain just that”

When he’s been clear he doesn’t want to go I’m not sure why you ask him to waive. He’s set up roots here. He wants to be here. And there is something to be said for that given the number of players who haven’t wanted to be here. Same with Coleman.

This is a market that has a hard time attracting players. Asking those that have expressed strong desires to be here could make it even harder to attract and keep players

[Badgers Nose]

Don’t know how we ever get the elite talent - last time we drafted it, but I don’t see this team ever finishing outside the top 20 with Wolf.

Blessing and curse, Flames can’t catch a break.

Mr Hindsight says they should have known Wolf was coming and tore down to the studs a season or two earlier, but that’s pretty unfair.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Don’t know how we ever get the elite talent - last time we drafted it, but I don’t see this team ever finishing outside the top 20 with Wolf.

Blessing and curse, Flames can’t catch a break.

Mr Hindsight says they should have known Wolf was coming and tore down to the studs a season or two earlier, but that’s pretty unfair.

Not really unfair. It was a conscious decision to sign Huberdeau and chase Kadri. They had a futures package on the table or alternatively could have held on signings and dumped everyone at that deadline.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

No he said this

“With that said we knew Kadri didnt want to go anywhere and we were told by Craig that he wasn't trading him. What "could" have been will have to remain just that”

When he’s been clear he doesn’t want to go I’m not sure why you ask him to waive. He’s set up roots here. He wants to be here. And there is something to be said for that given the number of players who haven’t wanted to be here. Same with Coleman.

This is a market that has a hard time attracting players. Asking those that have expressed strong desires to be here could make it even harder to attract and keep players

When you are trying to develope relationships and build trust, I 100% respect Conroy not going to ask something he already knew and further damaging a relationship.

He asked once, given his contract that is his right.

That is it. Respect given and earned both ways.

Drop the Kadri trade bull####.

[Goriders]

Score some f’ing goals!!

[Goriders]

Pass the oilers.

Even if you don’t make the playoffs

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

TBH I blame the lineup decisions.

You're not going to win when you're dressing all of Hunt, Rooney, Lomberg, Klapka, Miromanov, and Hanley.

Team really missed Backlund, Zary, and Pachal IMO.

You lost two skilled forwards and replaced them with grinders instead of Kerins (and his 4 points in 5 NHL games) and scratched one of your most steady guys.

I agree this was a scheduled loss, and the lineup looks very thin right now.

That bum Hunt actually has more points(48P in 48GP) than Kerins(46P in 49GP) in the AHL. I'm pretty sure the coaching staff is still trying to make the playoffs, so the decision is never as simple as "play the younger guy". I also doubt we would've seen much of a difference in the 6 minutes of ice time, and 11 shifts Hunt got.

With all of Coronato, Zary, Pospisil, Pelletier, Kirkland, Klapka, and Duehr graduating, moving on, or getting injured the forward ranks for the Wranglers became Paper thin. Hopefully this team gives Kerins, Stromgren, and Honzek more of a chance at training camp.

I'm not sure what's behind the decision to scratch Pachal, aside from giving your 7th D some reps. Maybe the coaches wanted a bit more pace and a better transition game from the 3rd pairing.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

TBH I blame the lineup decisions.

You're not going to win when you're dressing all of Hunt, Rooney, Lomberg, Klapka, Miromanov, and Hanley.

Team really missed Backlund, Zary, and Pachal IMO.

You lost two skilled forwards and replaced them with grinders instead of Kerins (and his 4 points in 5 NHL games) and scratched one of your most steady guys.

Hunt is outscoring Kerins

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

So, what exactly was the point of not trading Anderssen, Kadri and Coleman?

To give us a chance at a Stanley Cup push? With this roster?

#### off