American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But Schumer is a coward lol. Thinking he has any backbone whatsoever is very naive. Polling shows the GOP will get most of the blame for a shutdown, and he still is folding like a cheap tent.

Giving Trump a months long shutdown where he decides what essential services get to continue is not a good scenario and likely results in a million federal workers going on indefinite furlough or working without pay without much reason to think they'll get back pay this time.

I don't see any reason to believe that Trump would be at all troubled by a long shutdown even if the majority blames the Republicans.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I think you still retain the naive belief that the norms and decorum and institutions are gonna save this mess. Dare to dream I guess. Trump and Co have complete control and have shown blatant disregard for the rule of law. They have telegraphed their authoritarian desires. Ending this mess is gonna take fight, and having the leader of the opposition show none will not motivate anyone. Dems continue to just latch on to being "not Trump" will be the winner. Again, dare to dream.

[rubecube]

Schumer might go down as one of the most cowardly senate leaders in recent memory. How is he not considered complicit and/or a collaborator at this point?

https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsl...eader-schumer/

For three days, Senate Democrats privately debated whether to support a House-passed continuing resolution (CR) keeping the government funded through September 30, or to block it with a filibuster, thus letting the government temporarily shut down.

At midweek, it looked as if Chuck Schumer had devised a deft plan: Propose an alternative resolution to keep the government open for 30 days and send that back to the Republican House. That way, if the House did not go along, the shutdown would be on the Republicans.

On Wednesday, Schumer emerged from two days of meetings to declare that the caucus was unified against the Republican six-month resolution and supporting the 30-day plan instead.

But it turned out that he was simply floating the idea to keep Senate progressives happy. He was confident that the more centrist Democrats would reject the idea and vote cloture to end a filibuster and send the six-month continuing resolution to President Trump. In a more sinister maneuver, he would allow Republicans to end debate on their CR in exchange for a vote on the 30-day resolution—a vote that would fail, leaving Republicans able to pass their bill by majority vote.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

But Schumer is a coward lol. Thinking he has any backbone whatsoever is very naive. Polling shows the GOP will get most of the blame for a shutdown, and he still is folding like a cheap tent.

polling for what? mid term elections over 2 years away

[Senator Clay Davis]

Polling for who is to blame for the shutdown.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I will be celebrating the deaths of all of these listed people. Musk too.

There’s a lot of Fox News talking heads, as well as Alex Jones, who I wouldn’t feel very bad about if I saw their obituary in the news.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Polling for who is to blame for the shutdown.

I know but its hard to care...2 or 4 years these days might as well be 50 years. By the time it matters what the people think there will have been thousands of other issues. Assuming there are still elections.

[devo22]

a bit late to the "most terrible GOP members" show from the last two pages, but I'll happily add a quick "#### Mitch McConnell" to the pile. I'm not even close to being a religious person, but for this man's sake, I hope the concept of hell is real.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Muta

Trump White House has asked U.S. military to develop options for the Panama Canal, officials say

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...fic-rcna195994



This ####ing administration.

Blackrock is reclaiming it the old fashioned way, buying it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americ...al-2025-03-06/

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by devo22

a bit late to the "most terrible GOP members" show from the last two pages, but I'll happily add a quick "#### Mitch McConnell" to the pile. I'm not even close to being a religious person, but for this man's sake, I hope the concept of hell is real.

I think him fainting, falling down, is some form of torment. Hopefully more of the same happens and he doesn't just flat out die.

He is a person who deserves to suffer while alive as well.

[activeStick]

Republican senator Thom Tillis released a number of messages left on his voicemail threatening to kill him, his kids, and his grandkids. America is so effed.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1900605592408125531

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Republican senator Thom Tillis released a number of messages left on his voicemail threatening to kill him, his kids, and his grandkids. America is so effed.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1900605592408125531

I support this. GOP senators and congresspeople think, mostly correctly, that they're safe from the voters voting them out due to gerrymandering. They therefore need to be made to feel unsafe in other ways.

Ideally, one would be shot, to really send the message home that the status quo is very bad for them, too.

[BigThief]

High time for some political violence IMO

[dammage79]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. And that's meant for all Americans, not just Republicans or Maga zealots or the Bogots or the racist White supremacy groups, that's for the apathetic voters who think it doesn't matter. Or the Democrats who stand on the sidelines shrugging and saying "they voted for this".

I'm waiting for this presidential terms George Floyd moment where the pressure releases and violence erupts.

[5abi]

Trump uses his MAGA base as a threat, that’s why you see this level of docility

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

nm

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Republican senator Thom Tillis released a number of messages left on his voicemail threatening to kill him, his kids, and his grandkids. America is so effed.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1900605592408125531

Reap what you sow mother####er.

[Mr.Coffee]

Yep some key Repubs need to die now. That actually is the answer. We won’t be losing any people of quality or substance so it doesn’t matter.

The state and world order apparatus that’s been installed for 80 years is more important to maintain than a few lives- it’s true.

If you asked Founding Fathers their preference- it literally would be the death of many of these enemies of America and democracy.

We cannot succumb to fascism or nazism and it is at this point- war.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If I were Sam, I would have said, "You mean grants and incentives, not cuts"

No, Sam is right. Government agencies do not receive grants and incentives for DEIA initiatives.

Where Sam ####ed up was using trans and disabled people as his example. If he had used vets, they wouldn't have said ####.

[Slava]

Yikes this thread has certainly taken a turn.