Until there's a surgery to remove the Y chromosome you're still a male. Full stop
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Being intersex can present in about 40 different ways. The most common intersex traits include:
Combination of chromosomes: Everyone inherits sex-linked chromosomes from their biological parents. People who are male have XY chromosomes. People who are females have XX chromosomes. People who are intersex may have a mix of chromosomes, such as XXY. Or they may have some cells that are XY and some cells that are XX. Or they may have just one X chromosome (XO). Other combinations can occur too.
Newsom is the best chance they have in 28 if they even have an election. He is smart in what he doing. The way he made Trump look like a bitch when he got to California.
He’s smart in doing the podcast and even talking with big face Kirk. They need to learn from the last election and get their reach out now. He is already a great debater and bodied DeSatin last year. But as we saw with Harris the debates don’t matter much you need a much bigger outreach.
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How many transpeople are actually playing sports at a high level where this has somehow become a big concern. In fact I doubt many people could name more than 3 non-professional athletes that won medals in the Paris Olympics and those happened less than a year ago. It feels as though the issue is being promoted by a bunch of white men who want to appear as though they are defending women's rights, while at the same time taking them away with things that actually matter (ie bodily autonomy).
If someone can name 5 trans athletes without googling it I would be very impressed.
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This is a difficult one for me to take a stand on. I have no problem at all referring to trans people by the gender they identify with or display. It's a pretty natural thing in my mind and I don't have to think twice about it.
Sports is pretty binary in it's division though. If gender is a spectrum and genetics plays a role in performance, then maybe divisions in sports needs to be a spectrum as well.
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Couple awesome quotes coming out of Singapore today, from Zakaria’s “Fareed Takes” today who continues to be one of the most reliable news voices out there IMO.
Singapore Defense Minister Eng Hen in reference to the US:
“…has changed from liberator to great disrupter to a landlord seeking rent…”
Singapore Senior Minister Hsien Loong:
“The US is no longer prepared to underwrite the global order. This makes the international environment far less orderly and predictable.”
So true and the US is going to give up enormous international presence and reliability.
This is a difficult one for me to take a stand on. I have no problem at all referring to trans people by the gender they identify with or display. It's a pretty natural thing in my mind and I don't have to think twice about it.
Sports is pretty binary in it's division though. If gender is a spectrum and genetics plays a role in performance, then maybe divisions in sports needs to be a spectrum as well.
I have a progressive outlook towards trans people but agree that there needs to be rules to keep competition fair. What those rules should be are beyond my scope and this is such a minor issue that you know it's most often brought up to foment a culture war.
I have a progressive outlook towards trans people but agree that there needs to be rules to keep competition fair. What those rules should be are beyond my scope and this is such a minor issue that you know it's most often brought up to foment a culture war.
I was just talking about this with some friends last night.
I consider myself very liberal. Left leaning in almost all issues.
I do believe that if you have a Y chromosome, however, that you should be limited to male categories in sports.
Does it suck for that specific athlete that 100% identifies as female? Definitely. But the world simply isn’t 100% fair and equitable all the time.
And allowing athletes that were born genetically male to compete in women’s sports isn’t fair to the countless other athletes that were born female.
“The right of your fist ends where the other person’s nose begins” - type thing.
Just my opinion, of course.
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How many transpeople are actually playing sports at a high level where this has somehow become a big concern. In fact I doubt many people could name more than 3 non-professional athletes that won medals in the Paris Olympics and those happened less than a year ago. It feels as though the issue is being promoted by a bunch of white men who want to appear as though they are defending women's rights, while at the same time taking them away with things that actually matter (ie bodily autonomy).
If someone can name 5 trans athletes without googling it I would be very impressed.
Can’t disagree but it isn’t right when a trans muscle-bound woman who is several inches taller than her competitors takes a gold medal, denying a competitor the podium and the gold from another.
Good interview with a MA congressman who speaks to both the transgender issue and also corrects Pakman's leading question around crime stats and how it being lower under Biden means people feel safer. Really like his comment, "I'm a liberal, but I'm not condescending about it."
People sure do love to exclude vulnerable populations for zero good reason. Yeah you’re worried about the rash of trans athletes dominating in sports yeah? What's that? That's not happening anywhere and your programmed fears and misplaced ideas about "fairness" are driving you to take illogical positions? Sweet.
Maybe Newsom will do better in an election than I'd assume because clearly he's got company. We could really use more leftists and less liberals.
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Having women who used to be men compete in women’s sports is wrong. They don’t allow hitting or fighting in women’s hockey. What is McDavid said he’s a women tomorrow and joined the women’s hockey league ? Probably not right. He can identify as he wishes but he still woood have a significant advantage over his competitors.
People sure do love to exclude vulnerable populations for zero good. Yeah you’re worried about the rash of trans athletes dominating in sports yeah? What's that? That's not happening ant anll annywhere and your programmed fears and misplaced ideas about "fairness" are driving you to take illogical positions? Sweet.
Maybe Newsom will do better in an election than I'd assume because clearly he's got company. We could really use more leftists and less liberals.
Hmm. Not sure if that comment was directed specifically at comments like mine above but yes …I am a “leftist”, and also yes …I believe in fairness in sports.
Ironic that you are so “binary” in your definition of “left”. Is there no room for nuances in your construct of social paradigms?
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Can’t disagree but it isn’t right when a trans muscle-bound woman who is several inches taller than her competitors takes a gold medal, denying a competitor the podium and the gold from another.
How often does that happen?
I know that it occasionally does and there is a big news story about it but I don't think it is a big enough issue to justify the outrage and the discrimination that goes along with it. Also the truth is that women's sports are significantly less profitable so there isn't any purpose to someone pretending to be trans in the McDavid hypothetical, because why would anyone do that.
The simple fact is that this is being used as a wedge issue to justify how ####ty a group of people can be treated. Trans people are more likely to be the victims, the victims of discrimination, to be the victims of murder, sexual assault and violence... The fact that isn't being discussed but the focus is on the very slim chance that a random transgendered person will have the chance to win a medal in a sporting event seems to be a stark indication of where our values are as a society.
It sucks that the only time women's sports seems to be highlighted is when it is used as a tool to discriminate against another group.
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The folks who use trans athletes as the boogeyman win when folks dont understand how few of them they are. They amount of time and bandwidth it consumes boggles my mind.
As an example from when Utah banned trans athletes...
Utah has only one transgender girl playing in K-12 sports who would be affected by the ban. There have been no allegations of any of the four transgender youth athletes in Utah having a competitive advantage.
It's such a minor issue involving so few people that has been weaponized, and y'all fall for it. Any time you give them an inch on these things, you validate their positions and help them progress down the field. Go ahead and have an opinion, but don't pretend that it's some politics level issue that needs solving. This has been, and should continue to be managed at the sport governing body level. And unless it's Super A Plus Tier high school sport or above, none of it should register on the radar. Let the kids play, don't make is so fricken' serious.
So please, stop validating their positions. This is how they got where they are. People gave Trumps birth certificate BS air, and allowed for room for doubt about Obama, and looked how that turned out. You stop this #### now, or you lose complete control. Even if you don't feel 150% comfortable for whatever reason. It's not worth it.
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