2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It's the only style Huska knows. It has nothing to do with the roster, it's how he has coached every team he has ever coached. When this team gets more offensive talent the only way they can take a step forward is to show him the door.

I think they changed the style of play quite a bit from last year to this year.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Can't win with young players eh Mack? Hawks started a dynasty winning cup 1 when Toews was 21 and Kane was 20.

Not sure I would use the Hawks as an example per se, they were an elite team that likely will not be replicated.

And they had numerous veterans in the team like Hossa.

But your point is not wrong.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I think they changed the style of play quite a bit from last year to this year.

How so?

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It's the only style Huska knows. It has nothing to do with the roster, it's how he has coached every team he has ever coached. When this team gets more offensive talent the only way they can take a step forward is to show him the door.

This has been debunked already a few times on this board. He has had strong offensive teams both in junior and the AHL.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Not sure I would use the Hawks as an example per se, they were an elite team that likely will not be replicated.

And they had numerous veterans in the team like Hossa.

But your point is not wrong.

They were pumping out franchise players and key pieces for other teams for years…. Just a complete powerhouse.

[bluejays]

Has anyone talked about the report that Marner was asked to sign an extension or be traded for Rantanen? He declined both. Pretty interesting. Tre trying to negotiate heavy handed without any leverage.

https://thescore.com/nhl/news/3236850

I really wonder what Marner feels. I’m not the biggest fan of his in the playoffs but regular season he’s electric.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How so?

Last year, the team had a much better blue line, so they had a more free wheeling style. They were not as conservative and low event.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

This has been debunked already a few times on this board. He has had strong offensive teams both in junior and the AHL.

He most certainly did not have offensive teams in the AHL.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He most certainly did not have offensive teams in the AHL.

First year in the AHL he did, 6th in the AHL. Years 2-4 the Stockton Heat were middle of the pack, 21st, 14th, 18th.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lmao sounds like the Leafs upset Marner with the attempted trade. They said he was emotional discussion
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[Canada 02]

I love this stuff. I wish it was longer

[Goriders]

Looks like Rantanen is making a difference

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Lmao sounds like the Leafs upset Marner with the attempted trade. They said he was emotional discussion
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If I was Marner I’d be a little choked too. I have 9 more pts than Rantanen and a current contract that is only marginally more. I’m part of the team- a huge part- and you’re giving up on me for Rantanen?

…okay…

Does anyone think the Leafs are that much better with Rantanen than Marner? I’m not so sure. And the Leafs were going to add assets as well? Seems pretty silly. Was Marner just not going to re-sign with the Leafs or what? Maybe it’s because everyone spends all day trashing the guy non-stop despite being what, 6th or 7th in NHL scoring? Like, he’s pretty ####ing good and you’re doing everything you can to sour the relationship? Just strange.

[chummer]

Leafs pissed of Marner, Canucks pissed off Boeser.....love it.

[blender]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Has anyone talked about the report that Marner was asked to sign an extension or be traded for Rantanen? He declined both. Pretty interesting. Tre trying to negotiate heavy handed without any leverage.

https://thescore.com/nhl/news/3236850

I really wonder what Marner feels. I’m not the biggest fan of his in the playoffs but regular season he’s electric.

Was all-world in 4 nations

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

If I was Marner I’d be a little choked too. I have 9 more pts than Rantanen and a current contract that is only marginally more. I’m part of the team- a huge part- and you’re giving up on me for Rantanen?

…okay…

Does anyone think the Leafs are that much better with Rantanen than Marner? I’m not so sure. And the Leafs were going to add assets as well? Seems pretty silly. Was Marner just not going to re-sign with the Leafs or what? Maybe it’s because everyone spends all day trashing the guy non-stop despite being what, 6th or 7th in NHL scoring? Like, he’s pretty ####ing good and you’re doing everything you can to sour the relationship? Just strange.

Well, he's UFA. His camp's been saying thru Dreger at least since October he's not going to talk contract and also not going to waive his no trade. I think they were right to give him an ultimatum, he's put them in a bad spot. No I won't sign. but also you can't trade me, haha.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

This post is a hyperbole factory.

We aren’t sneaking anything, it’s going to be a fight. There’s a logjam of teams right now above and below us.

Wolf has stolen a few games, so has Vladar. Do you think this hasn’t happened with other teams as well?

This is an average team. They are well structured and play hard. Punching above their weight for sure but they are clearly half decent. The goaltending position is part of the team, as much as people love to seperate the two

A few games? Wolf has stolen us a minimum of 16 points and probably more.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

If I was Marner I’d be a little choked too. I have 9 more pts than Rantanen and a current contract that is only marginally more. I’m part of the team- a huge part- and you’re giving up on me for Rantanen?

…okay…

Does anyone think the Leafs are that much better with Rantanen than Marner? I’m not so sure. And the Leafs were going to add assets as well? Seems pretty silly. Was Marner just not going to re-sign with the Leafs or what? Maybe it’s because everyone spends all day trashing the guy non-stop despite being what, 6th or 7th in NHL scoring? Like, he’s pretty ####ing good and you’re doing everything you can to sour the relationship? Just strange.

The Leafs would be better off in the playoffs with Rantanen over Marner.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I think they changed the style of play quite a bit from last year to this year.

I'm with Dissentowner in that I'm not noticing a drastic change in style since last year. However, interestingly and regardless of the league, Huska's first year of coaching a team results in teams being leaky on GA before tightening things up for the remaining years of his tenure (presumably due to stifling offense).

Here's his coaching record with this year year for each team highlighted in yellow.

Year League RS PTs Finish GF GA
2007-08 WHL 13 6 14
2008-09 WHL 6 5 4
2009-10 WHL 14 16 9
2010-11 WHL 8 13 3
2011-12 WHL 9 16 12
2012-13 WHL 2 2 3
2013-14 WHL 1 2 2
2014-15 AHL 22 5 24
2015-16 AHL 27 25 12
2016-17 AHL 19 16 7
2017-18 AHL 22 17 8
2023-24 NHL 9 18 22
2024-25* NHL 17 32 13
*current placement in the NHL as of March 8th

Note: bbcode for the table didn't work and it had to be converted to text

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

This has been debunked already a few times on this board. He has had strong offensive teams both in junior and the AHL.

Except that it hasn't been debunked, and Huska's teams throughout his entire career simply do not score as much as they should.

I remember watching the 2008-09 Rockets beat the Hitmen and compete during the Mem Cup. A team that complete and deep should have finished higher than 5th in GF in the Dub.

During his Rockets tenure, the only years they were top of the league in GF were because the roster was absolutely stacked...like in 2012-13 when he had 10 drafted players and some really good undrafted players (e.g. Tyson Baillie and Zach Franko) on the roster. Even then, only two players on the entire team were ppg or better on the season.

Similarly in the AHL, he had some good talent to work with but was still finishing in the bottom half of the league in GF. For example, he had Raymond, Granlund, Agostino, Grant, Shore, and Shinkaruk in 2015-16, but finished 25th in GF.



The current Flames roster certainly has enough offensive talent to be higher than last place in GF right now. They're somehow magically below the Sharks, despite the Sharks' having an awful defense and only one forward line with players good enough to score goals. There's no way to explain it other than Huska's style and system

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Sandman

The Leafs would be better off in the playoffs with Rantanen over Marner.

Agreed. And four nations aside, Marner hasn't been a difference maker in the playoffs at all for the Leafs. I'd be very interested this year if he can step up when he's pressed with the physicality.


I do still find it odd that Treliving would press him like that. He holds the cards. The time to press him would be in the off-season. As much as he wants to be a Leafs I'm sure his breaking point is nearing. It's not fun not to be liked when he's producing (again, at least in regular season). I get that Treliving wanted the certainty of Rantanen locked up but there had to be a better way of going about it.