[News] Flames do not make any trades on trade deadline day

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Coach

I’m a big Andersson fan. Should have moved him. The prices were insane. If you can make a 1st+ out of an expiring Rasmus Andersson you do it.

You still can, his contract doesn't expire until next season. Ideally he is traded at the draft, when there are more potential buyers, but he could also get a haul at the next TDL.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Coach

I’m a big Andersson fan. Should have moved him. The prices were insane. If you can make a 1st+ out of an expiring Rasmus Andersson you do it.

If he was expiring he would have been dealt, he's not. He has another year left. My bet is he goes the same way Hanifin did. They can't come to terms on an extension and he gets dealt sometime between July 1st and the trade deadline next year.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

To sell Anderrson and Kadri for big returns.

Unrealistic expectations lead to disappointment and frustration. You're displaying your frustration in spades. You need to find a more relaxing hobby, hockey is not working out for you.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

To sell Anderrson and Kadri for big returns.

You're putting yourself in a lose / lose situation IMO, what kind of returns considered to be big? If they sell Andersson and Kadri for a big return but not match your expectation, you're gonna be disappointed as well.

[iloveicedhockey]

Considering conroy's bar has had people disappointed in the past (sometimes unnecessarily) with the toffoli, hanifin and markstrom tastes, people should be pleased he didn't stray from his ask for Andersson.

[cannon7]

I don't think Andersson was even really on the trade block.

[Manhattanboy]

So assuming we will be on the Trade Deadline Losers lists when they come out.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

So assuming we will be on the Trade Deadline Losers lists when they come out.

SN seemed pretty happy with the Flames on air

The actual losers are the teams that give up a bunch of assets and dont win. Like this probably doesnt age well for the Leafs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Fraser Minten and a late 1st round pick is not exactly a haul for Carlo. Do the Flames need another 20-25 pick? Should we have traded Rasmus for more middle 6 players and potential players? According to you in a different post that contradicts the trade Rasmus post the answer is no, we don’t need more middle six players like Minten.

I assume the only reason to trade Rasmus then would be to make the team worse?

Honetly I thought Miten was doing better...13 points in the AHL in 26 games is just okay.

[browna]

I did think they would supplant the current roster with some NHL depth because they've got nothing down the hall at the Wranglers. Prices too high clearly. Would be really nice if we had Mantha coming back.

For the vets, though, not surprised they didn't get touched. Anyone who wanted out had all of last season (post Heritage Classic) and last offseason to express their desire to leave, and Conroy would've made it happen.

Those that didn't want to leave all had chats with Conroy and committed and made it clear they wanted to be here coming into this season, even though maybe it was going to suck.

You've heard over and over how well the Flames treat players and their families. It's something the organization has done for a long time, but renewed focus on it during this rebuild, so when the new building opens, they will be well positioned to attract players for a number of reasons.

The straight up nature of Conroy's approach with the vets plays into that same attitude. If the players have committed to playing here when they could've bolted, and they are wanting to succeed here, he's going to hold up his end and not shop them around either.

It's going to be a tough road to make the playoffs. 20+ games to go and a lot can happen. We will see who now steps up. Goaltending been great. Defense been decent on the backend. Kadri and Huberdeau driving the play up front. That has to continue, plus maybe a bit of luck to get that extra point or win here and there.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by traptor

I see an okay team. I dont see an elite team.

Wolf and Parehk could be stars

I just don't see the high end forward talent in the projected roster needed to br a contender.


Maybe coronato or gridin or someone becomes a superstar but its not apparent yet.

Of course there isn’t - they aren’t even 24 months into this rebuild. I doubt any of the forwards they drafted will sniff the NHL in the next two years, and William Stromgren isn’t about to turn into Matthew Tkachuk either.

Right now, the Flames are being carried by a rookie goalie, and a bunch of veterans who, across the board, are getting more ice time than they would anywhere else in the league.

Kadri - 34
Huberdeau - 31
Weegar - 31
Coronato - 22
Coleman - 33
Zary - 23
Backlund - 35

Nobody is playing at even a 0.8 PPG pace.

This is about as good a season as this “core” is ever going to be able to muster. Not when more than half will be 34+ next season.

There is still all kinds of time for the bottom to fall out on them.

Particularly if Wolf is out for any length of time.

I think it’s quite unlikely they take a step forward next year. Even the Johnny Flames drafted 6th overall after making it to the 2nd round, and trading for Dougie Hamilton.

So be patient - enjoy this for what it is - a chance for a few more playoff memories at the Dome.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

So assuming we will be on the Trade Deadline Losers lists when they come out.

We have no UFAs.

Next year, they have $16M coming off the books - Andersson, Backlund, Lomberg, Bean and Miromanov, plus Markstrom’s retained money.

They’ll have $40M+ of cap space at the draft in 2026.

I also think Kadri at 4x$7M (with whatever retention) is extremely movable coming off three solid seasons with zero injuries. Been saying it for months, but if Naz were UFA this summer, he’d cost more than 4x$7M.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Elliott for a 2nd and a 3rd also comes to mind.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comm...#_you_elliott/

[My2Cents]

Let’s see what they do this off season. As mentioned lots of cap. Hopefully some more 1 year veterans to trade at the deadline. Maybe some bigger moves if they can’t get extensions in place.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

So be patient - enjoy this for what it is - a chance for a few more playoff memories at the Dome.

And possibly the last ones.

[1qqaaz]

If the Flames keep nailing drafts like they did in 2024, they'll be fine.
But I am concerned about how they'll get a superstar center.

[dino7c]

All this talk of amazing prices but Marchand got a 2nd that might get upgraded to a 27 or 28 1st if they make the east Final. Trade protection kills value in many cases

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

All this talk of amazing prices but Marchand got a 2nd thst might get upgraded to a 27 or 28 1st if thye make the east Final. Trade protection kills value in many cases

He didn't even have much trade protection (8 team NTC)

Sounds like maybe they waited too long to truly shop him, and teams had kind of made their moves already.

In the end he probably easily returns a 1st if Boston started shopping him a week ago.

[3thirty]

Marchand is also hurt right now which they said hurt his value.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by traptor

Our depth chart for the next 3 years will look something like this (RFA's and guys under contract)

Huberdeau - Kadri - Coronato
Farebee - Frost - Sharagovich
Zary - x - x
Pospisil - x - x

Weegar - *Parehk*
Bahl - *Rasmus*
x - x

Wolf


Backlund, Lomberg are 1 more year. Coleman is 2 more years. There is a decent chance the rest stay around for 3 years as it doesn't seem like Conroy is keen to trade anyone on contract.
Parehk is the one prospect that I've shoed in, because he's shown elite level talent.

Realistically what does everyone think is the range of this team over the next 3 years? Young players will get better but the old players will get worse.


Feels like a 12th - 22nd team to me.


We'll need something to eventually kickstart us out.

Sure, but what it it's



Huberdeau - x - x
Farabee - x - x
Zary - Kadri - Coronato
Pospisil - Frost - Sharagovic

x - x
Weegar - *Parehk*
Bahl - *Rasmus*

Wolf


Clearly, a contender.


Obviously, I'm being a bit facetious here, but I have a serious point. We can make additions who would be above our existing players. We have the cap space and depth that we should be able to make attractive pitches to the likes of McDavid, Marner, Eichel, even if their hearts are currently elsewhere. Maybe a prospect breaks out. Maybe we make a trade futures for a guy under contract. Lots of possibilities to improve the team.