03-07-2025, 12:01 PM
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#221
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think you are on to something. I would be willing to give up multiple 1st round picks for a franchise center.
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Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
I absolutely would but again that's the trouble with trading your picks. Flames don't hold their own 1st so cant offer sheet.
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If they can't offer sheet they should make a big pitch for him via trade (or sign and trade). The Stars will be in tough to offer him a big contract. They have Rantanen, Seguin, Hintz, Heiskenan, Oettinger on big contracts and Robertson and Harley both will be a year away from his next one. I know the cap is going up a lot but still...
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03-07-2025, 12:01 PM
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#222
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
What happened?
I haven't been following the situation & had no idea they were looking to re trade him.
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They reportedly made him a huge contract offer and he was non-committal about it.
Think they were expecting him to be more gung ho about wanting to sign in Carolina, when he wasn't they were afraid he was going to be just a rental for the price they paid.
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03-07-2025, 12:02 PM
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#223
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#1 Goaltender
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Wouldnt that offer sheet be with the 2026 pick? since it would be after the draft no?
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03-07-2025, 12:02 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
I absolutely would but again that's the trouble with trading your picks. Flames don't hold their own 1st so cant offer sheet.
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Any offer sheets given this summer would include draft picks from 2026 and beyond. The only first round pick the Flames have potentially moved is 2025's.
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03-07-2025, 12:02 PM
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#225
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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03-07-2025, 12:02 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Canes did pretty well here IMO
Turning Necas, Drury, and 2nd into Stankoven and 2 1sts is decent work
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I guess but whats the point? I thought they were all in
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03-07-2025, 12:03 PM
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#227
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by activeStick
For some reason, I was convinced that Stankoven had insane production during his first couple years, but looked it up and was surprised that I'm wrong. Why did I think this?!
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Dunno why but Stankoven got a lot of attention on this site (and Johnston was not mentioned at all).
Some on CP love small centres.
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03-07-2025, 12:03 PM
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#228
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by activeStick
For some reason, I was convinced that Stankoven had insane production during his first couple years, but looked it up and was surprised that I'm wrong. Why did I think this?!
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He was good when he was up last year and the playoffs, and started hot this year, but he's done little since.
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03-07-2025, 12:04 PM
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#229
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Dunno why but Stankoven got a lot of attention on this site (and Johnston was not mentioned at all).
Some on CP love small centres.
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Part of that was because he was picked right after we took Stromgren and it felt like the makings of another Point situation
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03-07-2025, 12:05 PM
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#230
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by 1Nite
How do they fit him under the cap, or is that a next season problem, and Cup or bust is now.
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They don't have to fit him under the cap - they are easily in a playoff spot, they have two elite level players on LTIR who will be back for the playoffs, players who will have a big pay raise next year (Ottinger, Bourque, Johnston) and a bunch of expiring contracts including players who will have a pay raise (Duchane in particular).
Easily the best drafting team in the NHL in the past decade.
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03-07-2025, 12:08 PM
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#231
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Lifetime Suspension
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How much of a pay raise is a currently 20 point player going to get ?
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03-07-2025, 12:09 PM
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#232
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Zambia
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The dudes on Sirius NHL channel say that Canes are shopping one of the 1sts for more..
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03-07-2025, 12:17 PM
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#233
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by getbak
Any offer sheets given this summer would include draft picks from 2026 and beyond. The only first round pick the Flames have potentially moved is 2025's.
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Thanks, I guess since an offer sheet would be after the season they would know if 2025 slides to 2026.
What would $7MMx5 be on an offer sheet? 1st. 2nd & 3rd? I'd do that for him but we would have to have a decision on backlund.
Johnston
Kadri
Frost
Backlund (or entry level prospect)
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03-07-2025, 12:17 PM
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#234
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Does Dallas become the SC favourite now?
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03-07-2025, 12:18 PM
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#235
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Canes did pretty well here IMO
Turning Necas, Drury, and 2nd into Stankoven and 2 1sts is decent work
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I'd rather have Necas and Drury if the idea was to compete in the playoffs
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03-07-2025, 12:18 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
I guess but whats the point? I thought they were all in
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I expect the Canes have something significant up their sleeve yet.
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03-07-2025, 12:19 PM
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#237
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
Thanks, I guess since an offer sheet would be after the season they would know if 2025 slides to 2026.
What would $7MMx5 be on an offer sheet? 1st. 2nd & 3rd? I'd do that for him but we would have to have a decision on backlund.
Johnston
Kadri
Frost
Backlund (or entry level prospect)
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Dallas has already offered Johnston 8x8.
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03-07-2025, 12:21 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I'd rather have Necas and Drury if the idea was to compete in the playoffs
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I wouldn't be surprised if Stankoven gets to Carolina and replaces Necas production, he's going to fit that team like a glove.
In the end they salvaged what was a tough situation with Rantanen after they took a big swing and missed and now they got a lot of capital to go do something else.
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03-07-2025, 12:27 PM
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#239
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Dallas is loaded for this year, but if they sign Johnston to $8MM a year, that paints a clear picture they won't be able to bring back Benn and Duchene next year if it wasn't clear already. Likely the right call, but could be difficult for room chemistry for the remainder of this year. Or not. They may have known this year was their last with Dallas and want to go out with a bang. Interesting at any rate.
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03-07-2025, 12:30 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I wouldn't be surprised if Stankoven gets to Carolina and replaces Necas production, he's going to fit that team like a glove.
In the end they salvaged what was a tough situation with Rantanen after they took a big swing and missed and now they got a lot of capital to go do something else.
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Rantanen couldn't replace Necas' production. I don't think Stankoven is going to
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