Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[2ArmBands]

Originally Posted by Ped

I may hate Trudeau even more now because where the #### has this version of him been for the past 8 years or whatever he's been in power? Actually answering questions and answering them well, getting to the point, no holds barred.


This is how Question Period should be, not the word salad he's been serving up that's avoided answering anything at all.

That's because the questions really only have one answer.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by 2ArmBands

That's because the questions really only have one answer.

And yet, PP is not answering them correctly.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Torture

And yet, PP is not answering them correctly.

The deplorable will answer the questions once he gets his security clearance....

hahaha all the losers who actually thought this moron would have been the PM of Canada hahahahaha

[Azure]

Don't tell Quebec!

Also, this would obviously mean Churchill is going to expand drastically. One can hope I was wrong in saying it'll never happen.

A Mark Carney-led government will:
Identify opportunities with provinces and territories to develop the economic corridors that can make the greatest contribution to interprovincial and international trade. We will prioritize infrastructure projects in regions where jobs and growth are held back by infrastructure capacity constraints—such as the Prairie provinces, Atlantic provinces, and the territories.

Focus on infrastructure investments with multi-use opportunities, especially in areas such as critical minerals, defence, and deep-water ports.

Designate Critical Infrastructure Corridors, building on the success of the Trans-Canada Highway and more recent progress in the Northwest Territories, to allow for rapid designation of corridors pre-approved for multi-use National Priority Projects.

Develop an inventory of the critical economic infrastructure with provinces and territories that would enhance the economic and national security of Canadians. We will also develop a fast-track approval process for projects that align with national security and trade priorities.

Support investments in Canada’s North by ensuring a resilient supply of critical goods to our most remote communities. This also means increasing exports of goods, such as critical minerals, potash, and agricultural products. Canada’s northern trade infrastructure has been neglected, with limited highway access, small airports, few large ports, and almost no railways.

Invest in—and expand on—Canada’s National Cyber Security Strategy to better protect critical infrastructure like ports, airports, and railroads from hostile foreign states and actors. Canada’s critical infrastructure is highly susceptible to cyber threats that could devastate our economy if it is not adequately protected.

https://markcarney.ca/one-canadian-economy

[ripTDR]

Man, I can't remember if I said it here or other forums, we are gonna need a lot of skilled trades. Even before this crisis I don't think we were pushing it enough. Also have to ask them to work remotely or move to some pretty undesirable places. I can honestly say that I don't think we have enough right now to do these major projects at once.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by ripTDR

Man, I can't remember if I said it here or other forums, we are gonna need a lot of skilled trades. Even before this crisis I don't think we were pushing it enough. Also have to ask them to work remotely or move to some pretty undesirable places. I can honestly say that I don't think we have enough right now to do these major projects at once.

I'd like to see provinces and the feds advertise for skilled workers, tradespeople, health care workers, etc., in red states, and then fast-track visas for them. Gotta think women, minorities, LGBTQ, etc., would jump at the chance to get out of those ####holes.

[dammage79]

Turns out apparently, that the F35 does have a remote kill switch. We really should be cancelling that contract. Especially with a U.S government who is acting in bad faith

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Turns out apparently, that the F35 does have a remote kill switch. We really should be cancelling that contract. Especially with a U.S government who is acting in bad faith

I was a fan of Saab from day one.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Turns out apparently, that the F35 does have a remote kill switch. We really should be cancelling that contract. Especially with a U.S government who is acting in bad faith

It's interesting seeing some posters on here talking about the need to build critical infrastructure (agreed) and attracting investors. With the latter, I think we need to be very careful. There are still substantial national security issues with having critical infrastructure that is owned by foreign entities, who could render the infrastructure useless at the whims of their own interests, or corporations who could abandon/shut down infrastructure because it's not profitable.

Public ownership of critical resources, infrastructure, etc., should absolutely be on the table going forward.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Azure

Don't tell Quebec!

Also, this would obviously mean Churchill is going to expand drastically. One can hope I was wrong in saying it'll never happen.



https://markcarney.ca/one-canadian-economy

Pretty smart for Carney here. Another huge robbing of the little remaining wind in PP’s sails.

This is exactly what Canadians have been begging for.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I mean in those hypothetical scenarios, first if national security is at stake and a foreign entity does something to threaten that national security, measures up to and including expropriating the asset temporarily or permanently. If it's no longer profitable and therefore going to be shut down but remains critical to national interests then the government could just buy the thing then.

Not that I'm categorically against a crown corp owning part or all of a piece of infrastructure of course, it all depends on the circumstances, and getting this stuff built while there is a window of political will and national unity is probably worth it regardless.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I mean in those hypothetical scenarios, first if national security is at stake and a foreign entity does something to threaten that national security, measures up to and including expropriating the asset temporarily or permanently. If it's no longer profitable and therefore going to be shut down but remains critical to national interests then the government could just buy the thing then.

Right, but these things take time. Having some form of public ownership expedites the process and would also probably increase the likelihood of reserve resources, equipment, etc.

Not that I'm categorically against a crown corp owning part or all of a piece of infrastructure of course, it all depends on the circumstances, and getting this stuff built while there is a window of political will and national unity is probably worth it regardless.

Yeah, I'm obviously not an expert on the subject. I just think there are a lot of pitfalls that come with solely relying on private industry in these sectors.

[2ArmBands]

Originally Posted by Azure

Don't tell Quebec!

Also, this would obviously mean Churchill is going to expand drastically. One can hope I was wrong in saying it'll never happen.



https://markcarney.ca/one-canadian-economy

There is a lot of good in this for sure but also some pretty lofty dreams. I can see a lot of broken promises here but the intent is good. The cost to expand north would be outrageous. Perhaps he too believes budgets balance themselves?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by 2ArmBands

There is a lot of good in this for sure but also some pretty lofty dreams. I can see a lot of broken promises here but the intent is good. The cost to expand north would be outrageous. Perhaps he too believes budgets balance themselves?

Deficit hawks really need to decide if they're actually serious about economic security and sovereignty or if they'd rather pinch pennies.

There isn't a discount option to procuring any of this.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

And it's not going to get cheaper later.

[2ArmBands]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Deficit hawks really need to decide if they're actually serious about economic security and sovereignty or if they'd rather pinch pennies.

There isn't a discount option to procuring any of this.

I mean this government was really fiscally responsible during the last crisis. I’m
sure they’ll do just fine with this blank cheque.

Right?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by 2ArmBands

I mean this government was really fiscally responsible during the last crisis. I’m
sure they’ll do just fine with this blank cheque.

Right?

You’re right, best not to do anything that costs money.

We can just keep relying on the US.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Deficit hawks really need to decide if they're actually serious about economic security and sovereignty or if they'd rather pinch pennies.

There isn't a discount option to procuring any of this.

I dunno, $30b for a pipeline is all of a sudden cheap and pays for itself many times over in the longrun.

I don't think many Canadians would be against ACTUALLY investing taxpayer money into these projects. Just frickin' do it already.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

And it's not going to get cheaper later.

Originally Posted by Azure

I dunno, $30b for a pipeline is all of a sudden cheap and pays for itself many times over in the longrun.

I don't think many Canadians would be against ACTUALLY investing taxpayer money into these projects. Just frickin' do it already.

That's sort of what I'm saying. Get it done, and make sure we're not putting ourselves at the mercy of other interests in the process.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by 2ArmBands

I mean this government was really fiscally responsible during the last crisis. I’m
sure they’ll do just fine with this blank cheque.

Right?

Seems like they did alright compared to other countries in terms of economic recovery from COVID.

https://www.covidrecoveryindex.org/ranking