03-05-2025, 01:56 PM
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Calgary not selling their veterans at inflated prices because they are in a playoff spot.
It's really that simple.
Coleman would be a perfect player for TB to get.
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03-05-2025, 02:00 PM
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#83
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Calgary not selling their veterans at inflated prices because they are in a playoff spot.
It's really that simple.
Coleman would be a perfect player for TB to get.
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No doubt. I just think the return by Seattle is startling. Coleman/Frost likely warrants a better package, depending on retention. I like both, but would be tempted by 2 1sts, a 2nd +
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03-05-2025, 02:01 PM
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#84
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
No doubt. I just think the return by Seattle is startling. Coleman/Frost likely warrants a better package, depending on retention. I like both, but would be tempted by 2 1sts, a 2nd +
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Tempted ? You couldn’t start the car fast enough
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03-05-2025, 02:04 PM
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#85
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I still don't see a world where Gourde should be worth a 1st and Bjorkstrand a 1st + 2nd and I like both players
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You’re not alone, but being reckless with 1sts and overpaying for the exact players they want is the TB special. It’s what they do. Sometimes it pays off (Goodrow), sometimes it really doesn’t (Jeannot).
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03-05-2025, 02:11 PM
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#86
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Calgary not selling their veterans at inflated prices because they are in a playoff spot.
It's really that simple.
Coleman would be a perfect player for TB to get.
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they have no assets left
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03-05-2025, 02:12 PM
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#87
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Calgary not selling their veterans at inflated prices because they are in a playoff spot.
It's really that simple.
Coleman would be a perfect player for TB to get.
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Which other trades had inflated prices? This looks like JB wanted two guys and overpaid to make sure he got them. No different from the Jeannot trade. We wouldn't even know if JB would give up the same assets for any of our vets.
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03-05-2025, 02:47 PM
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#89
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Originally Posted by Jiggy
Which other trades had inflated prices? This looks like JB wanted two guys and overpaid to make sure he got them. No different from the Jeannot trade. We wouldn't even know if JB would give up the same assets for any of our vets.
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Yeah, you are right but it does seem like GMs feel this could be anyone’s year and therefore a seller’s market. Not TB specifically, but it feels like offers for some of our older vets could be the best they’ll ever be right now (Kadri, Coleman).
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03-05-2025, 02:49 PM
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#90
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
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Good on JB. This is what sets apart good and mediocre GM's. I'm looking at you Tre while you window shop and almost get a deal done.
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03-05-2025, 02:54 PM
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#91
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Originally Posted by dino7c
they have no assets left
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Would have been, I meant.
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03-05-2025, 02:55 PM
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#92
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Yeah, you are right but it does seem like GMs feel this could be anyone’s year and therefore a seller’s market. Not TB specifically, but it feels like offers for some of our older vets could be the best they’ll ever be right now (Kadri, Coleman).
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Kadri's large continuing cap him makes him a poor deadline deal for cap strapped teams.
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03-05-2025, 02:59 PM
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#93
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Originally Posted by Jiggy
Good on JB. This is what sets apart good and mediocre GM's. I'm looking at you Tre while you window shop and almost get a deal done.
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It's easy for him to say. This entire time his team has featured a generational blueliner (Hedman) and a generational goalie (Vas). Teams that don't have those pieces don't have the luxury of spending futures lavishly to get playoff results.
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03-05-2025, 03:00 PM
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#94
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also a desirable location with no state tax
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03-05-2025, 03:03 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Originally Posted by dino7c
also a desirable location with no state tax
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Just like Washington.
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03-05-2025, 03:03 PM
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#96
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
It's easy for him to say. This entire time his team has featured a generational blueliner (Hedman) and a generational goalie (Vas). Teams that don't have those pieces don't have the luxury of spending futures lavishly to get playoff results.
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Generational Forward? Lol literally forgot the best player on that team.
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03-05-2025, 03:04 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Tampa has made 4 1st round picks since 2016.
Brett Howden - part of the Miller/McDonagh trade
Cal Foote - went in the Jeannot trade
Nolan Foote - went in the Coleman trade
Isaac Howard - still with the organization.
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03-05-2025, 03:05 PM
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#98
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
It's easy for him to say. This entire time his team has featured a generational blueliner (Hedman) and a generational goalie (Vas). Teams that don't have those pieces don't have the luxury of spending futures lavishly to get playoff results.
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Yeah. It’s easier for teams like Tampa, Florida and Vegas. They are destinations that UFAs prefer, they have loads of good players that they can just keep adding to because they don’t need the draft as much. If every 2-3 years they have UFAs lining up to play there, they don’t need 1st round picks as much as other teams.
I think age will catch up with these teams eventually but they are firmly in their win now windows so trading 1sts for impact players is worth it.
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03-05-2025, 03:09 PM
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#99
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Puckpedia shows the Lightning with 9 million in space next year. They need to re-sign or replace Gourde, Glendening, Perbix, and Johansson. Considering the fact they seem to find cheap capable replacements (Eyssimont, Darren Raddysh, Lilleberg, Girgensons, Chaffe), that doesn't seem too hard.
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03-05-2025, 03:10 PM
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#100
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Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
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They don't need draft picks as much as other markets would given they are a desirable destination.
Still a stupid comment overall though. You can have a good team full of good players and also have a lot of draft picks in your arsenal.
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